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Les Schwab spinning me yarn about CV axles

Discussion in '1st Gen. Tacomas (1995-2004)' started by Beeson, Jul 18, 2010.

  1. Jul 18, 2010 at 9:23 AM
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    Beeson

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    Hey guys, tell me what you think. Les Schwab is spinning me this yarn (I'm almost positive) about needing entirely new CV axles; work for which they would receive a lusty $600 from me for. Obviously I wouldn't do this; heck if they needed to be replaced, I'd do it myself, but I think that they are fine, all it is is that the boot is ripped and grease is slowly spilling out. Why can't I just replace the boots? Am I crazy?

    On a side note, I'm running the 1" diff drop with my 3" lift and this still happened. :mad:
     
  2. Jul 18, 2010 at 9:30 AM
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    getting there....
    to be honest....replacing the whole cv is alot easier than replacing just the boot...but yeah...you can replace the boot....and add in some grease. should be good to go....unless its popping/clicking when you turn.
     
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    the diff drop is next to worthess.

    unfortunately, changing boots/axles is something you're going to have to live with/get good at if you choose to run that much lift.

    you can get an autozone shaft for $60 or so with a liftime warranty, iirc. ..anytime you rip a boot, pull the axle and exchange it for another.
     
  4. Jul 18, 2010 at 10:53 AM
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    ^^X2... Dont bother changing the boot. Ive heard its a bitch. Way easier and faster, just to replace the whole shaft.
     
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    what these guys said^^

    I ripped a boot and replaced the whole shaft.

    Don't spend $600.
     
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    You mentioned axle"s"...do you mean both sides for a total of $600? How many miles do you have on your lift?
     
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    not to thread jack but i have a feeling that my boots are going to wear through pretty soon and i am starting to look at options for new cv's. has anybody done this autozone thing and have any experience with their axles? i have read that they are not as strong as the toyota axles but for $60 with free lifetime replacement i could live with putting an extra set on every 2 or 3 years. anyone with experience, opinions would be much appreciated
     
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    Yes both sides, no I'm not going to do that obviously, haha. I'm not too sure how many miles are on the lift. I bought the truck at 176,000 with a revtech 3" lift on it and now it's at about 206,000 and I literally just switched to an old man emu lift last week. I think I'll go the autozone route and buy the shaft there. My front diff seal is going out, so this will be a good time to get that too. Unfortunatly, I've never really done these repairs before, so I'll be figuring it out slowly I'm sure. Approximatly how long would you say this repair takes?
     
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    there are some good write-ups out there that walk you through it. ...it may take you a couple hours your first time. ...after you've done if a few times, it takes about 30 min.


    here's one ..although i think i've seen a better one somewhere.

    http://www.4x4wire.com/toyota/maintenance/cv_axle/


    another one...

    http://www.keystonekrawlers.com/Mods/Toyota/cvboot/CVBoot_replacement.htm



    i've never had to replace my pinion seal ...so not sure what all that requires. ...seems like you just remove the nut holding the yolk on and then use a seal puller to remove the old seal and then install the new one. ..but i'm not certain.
     
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    Go the autozone or advance auto parts route. Lifetime warranty, no questions asked.

    I had advance auto parts axles on my accord I used to have, It was turboed so I had to replace axles sometimes due to "pre-mature failure" :D Anytime one messed up, I took it off and they swapped it free of charge. I got to the point where I could swap out an axle in under 30 minutes.
     
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    According to the repair manual that a popular parts list for us came off of, its rated at 2.0 hours per side. I'm sure it can be done faster though, but thats what mechanics are paid for the job.

    So, if you were having someone else do it, $600 seems a bit high, but probably about right parts and labor once everything is done. Considering they're removing the lower ball joint, they may have an alignment added in as well (although shouldn't be necessary, but toyota included an alignment when they replaced the lower ball joints on the recall).

    As others have said, just replace the axles instead of trying to do the boot. In the chance that the cv's are toast and just haven't started making noise yet, or you miss some dirt, its just not worth the time it'll take to redo it all when axles really aren't that expensive. Guess its all relative though.

    About the only special tool you'll need is a 35mm socket I believe. Rest are smaller sockets/wrenches and common tools. Also need a torque wrench that goes to 175 ft lbs (well, 174) and an allen wrench either 10 or 12mm in size for the diff fill plug, depending on your year. Impact wrench or cheat bar will probably be necessary as well, since the hub bolt is torqued to 174 ft lbs.

    I'm pretty much in the same boat myself though, as I cant seem to find the source of a leak, but its getting to the point its about time to replace them anyway.
     
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    I just had my driver's side axle replaced plus entire front differential replaced because..."the lift caused my axle seal to go, and wrecked my axle and diff"... whatever...

    now I have a nice shiny new differential
     
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    When I first moved to Oregon from California years ago I didn't have anyplace to do my front brakes so I took my old Isuzu truck to Les Schwab. They called back with a price of $300 for the front brakes. I just about shit myself. They told me that they wanted to replace the calipers and pads and rotors. I said don't do anything! There were no leaks, the calipers and rotors were fine. They said they replace everything so they can warranty it for life. I drove it home, jacked it up, yanked the rotors, had them resurfaced and put on new pads for about $50. That was the last time I even thought of going to Les Schwab.
     
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    Schwabbies is a rip off...
     
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    just go buy one from autozone and have the one that is tore up rebuilt. then you always have an extra in case of emergency.
     
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