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Discussion in 'Off-Topic Discussion' started by Oat, Mar 23, 2012.

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  1. Apr 3, 2012 at 8:59 PM
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    I live here in orlando, the same shit was said about casey anthony but nothing happened and now no one gives a shit.
     
  2. Apr 3, 2012 at 9:22 PM
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    True, but in all honesty, who was seriously going to riot over the Anthony verdict? A bunch of moms? Don't think so, despite how awful that decision was.

    I think you approach more riot potential when race/class rhetoric hits a high. Most rioting is an excuse to steal/loot/and otherwise cause buggery.

    This, on the otherhand has LA riot potential, but I certainly hope not. As more facts come out, it may extinguish some of the fire created by the media's agenda and the race warlords.
     
  3. Apr 3, 2012 at 9:25 PM
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    To be honest I dont think more facts coming out makes a difference. The guy shot an unarmed kid.
     
  4. Apr 3, 2012 at 9:27 PM
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    Close the thread. Judgement has been reached. I say we hang the bastard.
     
  5. Apr 3, 2012 at 9:30 PM
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    :cheers:
     
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    mgrande, ...i like your sigline quote of TJ, ..and assume you are open minded enough to entertain the notion that a 17 yr old who may have been assuming a thug culture persona, ..could be very dangerous in a fight, even unarmed...
     
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    Or at least consider all the facts.....:notsure:
     
  8. Apr 3, 2012 at 9:45 PM
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    he could be, but zim's ass whooping was self acquired, meaning he went out of his way to receive it. Thug or no thug, he didn't deserve to die.
     
  9. Apr 3, 2012 at 9:50 PM
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    "out of his way to receive it"... well, we don't know the choreography behind what happened... hopefully it can be reconstructed... zimmerman's account is he was on the phone, got out of his vehicle for a closer look, ..then was assaulted as he was getting back in his vehicle... now, i don't know if this is true, but assuming it is, ...i don't see how your judgement is valid... a neighborhood watch ought be able to investigate something suspicious - if his story is true, i don't see where he crossed "a line"...
     
  10. Apr 3, 2012 at 10:25 PM
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    I agree that it should be investigated and tried. But what was suspicious about him walking? And who gave him the lawful authority to investigate crimes that have yet to be committed?

    Dude got punched in the face and then feared for his life? Sounds like a bitch to me...
     
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    the story is he was walking amongst "the eaves", not on the sidewalk... so that was the first cue, according to zimmerman, ...dark, rainy, ...hood, recent breakins (that's what he told the operator) ...the rest is history...

    what citizen needs lawful authority to investigate things go bump in the night, so to speak? it was his community... you can walkabout freely, ..you just can't assault someone... zimmerman story is that he got confronted before getting back in his vehicle, punched in face/nose, (i suppose seeing stars at that point?), then tangling on the ground, ...w/ trayvon on top slamming his head into the ground, ...zimmerman's father claimed trayvon saw the gun, and said something to the effect "you're going to die tonight"...
     
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    So the kid got what he deserved?! Assault is punishable by death?! Why did he even get out of his car? The fact that he was walking back to his car means he got out and left it. Meaning he started the whole thing. If i would have shot an unarmed kid in afghanistan i would be locked up, but here in America its all good because he looked suspicious?
     
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    But there was no bump! No crime had been commited.
     
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    how does getting out of ones car and getting back in ones car justify getting jumped?... see it cuts both ways.. "starting it" comes down to who intiated the assault... did you ever think that "the kid" may have been going for the gun??... you probably have ROE in theatre but if you're being attacked, and it ain't going too well for ya - you just gonna flop around and hope they get off you and quit?... certainly you know what's it's like to be judged by people who aren't in your boots... here's a case of everyone armchair quarterbacking a guy who got embroiled in a physical confrontation, ..we weren't in his shoes... lets give the benefit of the doubt until we really know what happened...
     
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    the bump was a suspicious looking character walking along the eaves, ...zimmerman said he was looking around, ...seemed like he could be on drugs, ..IDK, ...but wasn't on the sidewalk and there were recent breakins, etc... so the confluence of all this was "the bump" i suppose... if crap was going on in your neighborhood, you'd probably have an elevated interest in things that seem different too no?...
     
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    The kid could have never "gone for the gun" if zim never got out of his car and went after someone that was not committing a crime. What would you do if some random guy in plain clothes started chasing you?
     
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    yep, ..which is why i've been trying to debunk the propoganda... the folks who are trying to draw this law into this are basically aligned w/ the folks who are trying to convict zimmerman in the court of public opinion... they go hand in hand... the stand-your-ground laws have been very popular in many states - it's more common sense than anything else, ...but it may not even apply in this incident anyway... trayvon would've had the same right to stand his ground as zimmerman would've..
     
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    first of all we don't know if it was a "chase"... this is the problem w/ the LSM coverage - this is all trumped up by them w/out the facts - all speculation in between the audio on the call and the eywitness accounts... how do you know zimmerman chased him down? he got out of his vehicle, was on the phone, ..the we don't know... he may have walked down the path to get a closer look... if that's the case, big whoop... and certainly not justification to assault someone over...
     
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    wiley would have been open carrying and shot him with every bullet in the largest magazine he could legally possess while reciting the 2nd ammendment just before screaming " America , Fuck Yeah ! " because he is a citizen and not a subject .
     
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