1. Welcome to Tacoma World!

    You are currently viewing as a guest! To get full-access, you need to register for a FREE account.

    As a registered member, you’ll be able to:
    • Participate in all Tacoma discussion topics
    • Communicate privately with other Tacoma owners from around the world
    • Post your own photos in our Members Gallery
    • Access all special features of the site

Let's see your FJ case swap

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by TACO828, Oct 11, 2016.

  1. Sep 28, 2024 at 8:39 AM
    #3061
    gtrotter07

    gtrotter07 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 19, 2019
    Member:
    #299768
    Messages:
    379
    Gender:
    Male
    Vehicle:
    2007 Tacoma reg cab 4x4 on 37's; 2021 TRD Offroad, 6 speed
    37's,lockers, bumpers, bobbed etc.
    Taking it out is the easy part. Putting it back in is the hard part.
     
    fatfurious2[QUOTED] likes this.
  2. Sep 28, 2024 at 8:51 AM
    #3062
    fatfurious2

    fatfurious2 IG: great_white_taco

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 2014
    Member:
    #132884
    Messages:
    49,206
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    David
    Ashburn, VA
    Vehicle:
    2010 TRD OR Access Cab
    I have extra steps because I have a URD exhaust, and a skid cross member to take off.

    Im moving to the interior part now. Do i need to disconnect the shifter cable?
     
  3. Sep 28, 2024 at 9:21 AM
    #3063
    gtrotter07

    gtrotter07 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 19, 2019
    Member:
    #299768
    Messages:
    379
    Gender:
    Male
    Vehicle:
    2007 Tacoma reg cab 4x4 on 37's; 2021 TRD Offroad, 6 speed
    37's,lockers, bumpers, bobbed etc.
    That part I don't know. Mine is a 5 speed so cables involved.
     
    fatfurious2[QUOTED] likes this.
  4. Sep 28, 2024 at 12:32 PM
    #3064
    fatfurious2

    fatfurious2 IG: great_white_taco

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 2014
    Member:
    #132884
    Messages:
    49,206
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    David
    Ashburn, VA
    Vehicle:
    2010 TRD OR Access Cab
    Auto base is cut. Going to cut a little more so i can access the shifter bolts from the top. There are 2 more bolts on the tcase than i can access from the top too. Then i can put the driveshafts back in
     
  5. Sep 28, 2024 at 7:29 PM
    #3065
    fatfurious2

    fatfurious2 IG: great_white_taco

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 2014
    Member:
    #132884
    Messages:
    49,206
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    David
    Ashburn, VA
    Vehicle:
    2010 TRD OR Access Cab
    Wrapped up for tonight.
    Tcase in, shifter in place with minimal rubbing.

    I need to recut the pencil tray, finish wiring on the tcase sensors, finish glove box wiring, and get a different shift boot for the floor (the LX470 boot is too big and nice to hack up), and get a leather boot.

    Then i also need to do the FJ tube to delete ADD.

    I also found some other small issues like the studs from my cats are stripped. Need to replace those, along with new gaskets, and clamps.

    IMG_0532.jpg

    Also, everything is functional, but theres a slight grind if Im in neutral, going from N to 4lo. Anyone else have similar issue?
     
    DesertRatliff and hyrule_trd like this.
  6. Oct 1, 2024 at 4:05 PM
    #3066
    fatfurious2

    fatfurious2 IG: great_white_taco

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 2014
    Member:
    #132884
    Messages:
    49,206
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    David
    Ashburn, VA
    Vehicle:
    2010 TRD OR Access Cab
    @Littles do i need to cut the wires at the 4x4 ecu in addition to the sensors at the tcase, in order for my lights to stop flashing?

    In that case, I've only done the tcase sensor wires as of today. Lights will still flash.
     
  7. Oct 1, 2024 at 7:18 PM
    #3067
    wrmathis

    wrmathis Dark Lord of the Sith

    Joined:
    Sep 10, 2008
    Member:
    #9126
    Messages:
    9,361
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Ryan
    Bonaire, GA
    Vehicle:
    2006 Tacoma TRD OR 4x4
    parts and stuff
    Yes. Need to disconnect the plugs from the 4wd ecu and then cut and splice the correct wires in that area.

    do not plug the connectors back into the ecu
     
    fatfurious2[QUOTED] likes this.
  8. Oct 2, 2024 at 12:33 PM
    #3068
    fatfurious2

    fatfurious2 IG: great_white_taco

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 2014
    Member:
    #132884
    Messages:
    49,206
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    David
    Ashburn, VA
    Vehicle:
    2010 TRD OR Access Cab
  9. Oct 2, 2024 at 2:40 PM
    #3069
    fatfurious2

    fatfurious2 IG: great_white_taco

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 2014
    Member:
    #132884
    Messages:
    49,206
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    David
    Ashburn, VA
    Vehicle:
    2010 TRD OR Access Cab
    Brown/white wire was hard to find. I cut the white/black wire from plug A first. Was wondering why I didnt have 4lo light.

    But got it fixed!
     
  10. Oct 2, 2024 at 3:20 PM
    #3070
    Littles

    Littles Stupid is as stupid does.

    Joined:
    May 14, 2014
    Member:
    #129837
    Messages:
    3,259
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Bryan
    Elizabeth, CO
    Vehicle:
    3 tons of fun
    Nice! All you really have left is swapping the ADD out for the FJ tube right?
     
  11. Oct 2, 2024 at 4:20 PM
    #3071
    fatfurious2

    fatfurious2 IG: great_white_taco

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 2014
    Member:
    #132884
    Messages:
    49,206
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    David
    Ashburn, VA
    Vehicle:
    2010 TRD OR Access Cab
    Yessir!

    Turns out my FJ tube isn't in great shape. I think im going to need to helicoil the bolt holes for the arms. And of course replace the seal.

    But I scored a "used" tube for $100, so i cant complain too much. Sold the rest of the diff to ECGS.

    IMG_0515.jpg
     
  12. Oct 2, 2024 at 4:44 PM
    #3072
    Littles

    Littles Stupid is as stupid does.

    Joined:
    May 14, 2014
    Member:
    #129837
    Messages:
    3,259
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Bryan
    Elizabeth, CO
    Vehicle:
    3 tons of fun
    It's just some seasoning. Doesn't look that bad. If the bearing feels good and seal is alright, send it. It looks like you have some thread on one side. Might get away with some red locktite.
     
    fatfurious2[QUOTED] likes this.
  13. Oct 2, 2024 at 4:51 PM
    #3073
    fatfurious2

    fatfurious2 IG: great_white_taco

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 2014
    Member:
    #132884
    Messages:
    49,206
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    David
    Ashburn, VA
    Vehicle:
    2010 TRD OR Access Cab
    I think the bearing is ok? Theres a little bit of side to side play. Should it be solid? I could always do the poor man version of just sliding the collar over
     
  14. Oct 2, 2024 at 5:24 PM
    #3074
    Littles

    Littles Stupid is as stupid does.

    Joined:
    May 14, 2014
    Member:
    #129837
    Messages:
    3,259
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Bryan
    Elizabeth, CO
    Vehicle:
    3 tons of fun
    I honestly don't recall whether or not there was side play but I did all new parts so I wouldnt have checked. You can wait to see how it compares to your ADD bearing when you pull it, and pick the better of the two. Might need a press or drop it off at a shop, but I know someone posted recently about using the heat/ freeze method successfully.

    Worst case scenario if you go with it as is and theres a problem, you end pulling the tube again. If there's less than 150k on the diff and it doesn't feel too loose and no grinding, I'd send it for the $100 you spent. Or slide the collar. I didn't like the slide the collar idea at first, but I have come around to it. Hard to argue against it's free and it works. I have never heard anyone report that it slid out of position or had any problems with that method.
     
    fatfurious2[QUOTED] likes this.
  15. Oct 2, 2024 at 5:30 PM
    #3075
    fatfurious2

    fatfurious2 IG: great_white_taco

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 2014
    Member:
    #132884
    Messages:
    49,206
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    David
    Ashburn, VA
    Vehicle:
    2010 TRD OR Access Cab
    So on my tcase, i have a small grind when shifting from N to 4lo, when the trans is in N. Im not sure if thats normal, and its not all the time. I think i may need to change the fluid again. But there shouldn't be anything spinning
     
  16. Oct 2, 2024 at 5:35 PM
    #3076
    Littles

    Littles Stupid is as stupid does.

    Joined:
    May 14, 2014
    Member:
    #129837
    Messages:
    3,259
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Bryan
    Elizabeth, CO
    Vehicle:
    3 tons of fun
    I have never had any grinding, but I'm a manual so my clutch is on the floor any time I'm pulling shifters. I would think in neutral nothing should be loaded, but someone with and auto can chime in
     
    fatfurious2[QUOTED] likes this.
  17. Oct 2, 2024 at 7:50 PM
    #3077
    fatfurious2

    fatfurious2 IG: great_white_taco

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 2014
    Member:
    #132884
    Messages:
    49,206
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    David
    Ashburn, VA
    Vehicle:
    2010 TRD OR Access Cab
    Might need to be forceful when shifting at a full stop with trans in N. @4x4Runner found your old post!

    https://www.4runners.com/threads/shifter-grinds-engaging-4lo.8748/
     
  18. Oct 2, 2024 at 7:59 PM
    #3078
    BLtheP

    BLtheP Not a Member

    Joined:
    Apr 5, 2022
    Member:
    #394355
    Messages:
    3,675
    Gender:
    Male
    Plano, TX
    Vehicle:
    2021 MGM TRD On-Road DCSB MT
    5.29 Gears, FJ Metal Pedal, OEM Condenser Fan
    The issue is because once the transfer case enters N from 4H, if the transmission N is more resistant, the engine will spin up the t-case input and planetary if you stay in N for any amount of time. So then when you pull the shifter further to go into 4L, the mode ring which is sitting still has to engage a spinning planetary, which is still being spun by the engine through the transmission. In other words, pretty much shift quickly from 4H to 4L to avoid grinds.
     
    Littles and fatfurious2[QUOTED] like this.
  19. Oct 3, 2024 at 8:07 AM
    #3079
    TireFire

    TireFire Superunknown Member

    Joined:
    Feb 6, 2016
    Member:
    #177349
    Messages:
    7,640
    Olympic Peninsula
    So the 4Runners and FJ Cruisers experience the same grinding if the shift isn’t done quickly?
     
    fatfurious2 likes this.
  20. Oct 3, 2024 at 8:16 AM
    #3080
    BLtheP

    BLtheP Not a Member

    Joined:
    Apr 5, 2022
    Member:
    #394355
    Messages:
    3,675
    Gender:
    Male
    Plano, TX
    Vehicle:
    2021 MGM TRD On-Road DCSB MT
    5.29 Gears, FJ Metal Pedal, OEM Condenser Fan
    Yes. Pretty common with all automatic transmissions and manual cases.

    Being in park would mitigate this, but nobody wants to shift all the way to park.
     
    TireFire[QUOTED] and fatfurious2 like this.

Products Discussed in

To Top