1. Welcome to Tacoma World!

    You are currently viewing as a guest! To get full-access, you need to register for a FREE account.

    As a registered member, you’ll be able to:
    • Participate in all Tacoma discussion topics
    • Communicate privately with other Tacoma owners from around the world
    • Post your own photos in our Members Gallery
    • Access all special features of the site

Let's see your FJ case swap

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by TACO828, Oct 11, 2016.

  1. Feb 24, 2021 at 2:42 PM
    #1541
    Mech1txs

    Mech1txs Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 17, 2021
    Member:
    #356479
    Messages:
    293
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Troy
    Nor-Cal
    Vehicle:
    06 single cab manual FJ swapped add delete
    FJ swapped add delete
    I’m just spit balling here but Don’t you think you could fabricate some linkage to come off the gear under that little side cover on the t case actuator?
     
  2. Feb 24, 2021 at 3:16 PM
    #1542
    Mech1txs

    Mech1txs Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 17, 2021
    Member:
    #356479
    Messages:
    293
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Troy
    Nor-Cal
    Vehicle:
    06 single cab manual FJ swapped add delete
    FJ swapped add delete
    I agree it would take some fabricated parts for sure .
     
  3. Feb 24, 2021 at 4:14 PM
    #1543
    hoarder23

    hoarder23 Truck fell over

    Joined:
    Aug 14, 2012
    Member:
    #84787
    Messages:
    12,757
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Shay
    NJ
    Vehicle:
    15 Pyrite Mica DCSB Sport
    Scratches
    So why wouldn’t you just use the manual case out of a FJ or T4R? Toyota already did all the engineering and fabrication to allow it to be manually shifted.
     
    whatstcp likes this.
  4. Feb 24, 2021 at 4:14 PM
    #1544
    vssman

    vssman Rocket Engineer

    Joined:
    Jun 17, 2013
    Member:
    #106440
    Messages:
    9,384
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Paul
    Naugatuck, CT
    Vehicle:
    2013 SR5 double cab
    Now I remember that thread! I actually posted on it too. Damn memory isn’t what it was. :rolleyes:
     
    6 gearT444E likes this.
  5. Feb 24, 2021 at 4:19 PM
    #1545
    vssman

    vssman Rocket Engineer

    Joined:
    Jun 17, 2013
    Member:
    #106440
    Messages:
    9,384
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Paul
    Naugatuck, CT
    Vehicle:
    2013 SR5 double cab
    I agree. If you’re going to have to remove the T case, split it and fab up a linkage, just put in a FJ case. Only way to save work and make sense would be to figure out a good way of replacing the actuator with a cable device that is properly sealed and has detents or a gate to allow shifting into the different selections. Without detents, I’d probably drive that thing into low range when running at 45mph. I did that once in a 82 Ranger going about 5mph. What a sound it made!
     
    6 gearT444E likes this.
  6. Feb 24, 2021 at 4:36 PM
    #1546
    6 gearT444E

    6 gearT444E Certified Electron Pusher

    Joined:
    Feb 3, 2018
    Member:
    #243372
    Messages:
    7,601
    Deep South
    Herculiner Hootus
    because it’s cheaper to swap in the fj case. A cable shifter for the elocker costs upwards of a few hundred.
     
    whatstcp and vssman like this.
  7. Feb 24, 2021 at 4:39 PM
    #1547
    6 gearT444E

    6 gearT444E Certified Electron Pusher

    Joined:
    Feb 3, 2018
    Member:
    #243372
    Messages:
    7,601
    Deep South
    Herculiner Hootus
    whatstcp likes this.
  8. Feb 24, 2021 at 4:42 PM
    #1548
    vssman

    vssman Rocket Engineer

    Joined:
    Jun 17, 2013
    Member:
    #106440
    Messages:
    9,384
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Paul
    Naugatuck, CT
    Vehicle:
    2013 SR5 double cab
    6 gearT444E[QUOTED] likes this.
  9. Feb 24, 2021 at 6:50 PM
    #1549
    Mech1txs

    Mech1txs Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 17, 2021
    Member:
    #356479
    Messages:
    293
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Troy
    Nor-Cal
    Vehicle:
    06 single cab manual FJ swapped add delete
    FJ swapped add delete
    I agree , I’m definitely doing the swap and add delete all factory parts . I like to work with off the shelf stuff but problem solving something like making a stock Tacoma t case manual shifted could be a fun challenge. Lol
     
  10. Feb 24, 2021 at 7:01 PM
    #1550
    Pdugan6

    Pdugan6 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 11, 2013
    Member:
    #110271
    Messages:
    1,486
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Patrick
    Sunnyvale California
    Vehicle:
    3 link solid axle 2011 Tacoma 4x4
    Here’s a pic of my last Tacoma11’ with the twin stick Fj swap.
    E7D036CA-1E94-4FF7-AC47-E6954EF143CC.jpg

    Here is a pick of my new Tacoma 09’ with single stick front reduction housing which I just finished this afternoon.
    CF5B2995-C6EE-440D-A994-058EDBE897DC.jpg
     
    rheath08 and 907rx7 like this.
  11. Feb 24, 2021 at 7:45 PM
    #1551
    6 gearT444E

    6 gearT444E Certified Electron Pusher

    Joined:
    Feb 3, 2018
    Member:
    #243372
    Messages:
    7,601
    Deep South
    Herculiner Hootus
    A challenge is always fun, but ill leave that to you to explore the manually shifting taco case I’ve had enough “fun” with dealing with those type of challenges. With only one shift rail, you’ll also never get the benefit of 2lo after all of that work.
     
  12. Feb 24, 2021 at 8:54 PM
    #1552
    Mech1txs

    Mech1txs Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 17, 2021
    Member:
    #356479
    Messages:
    293
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Troy
    Nor-Cal
    Vehicle:
    06 single cab manual FJ swapped add delete
    FJ swapped add delete
    Very clean looks good
     
    Pdugan6[QUOTED] likes this.
  13. Feb 24, 2021 at 8:57 PM
    #1553
    xtremewlr

    xtremewlr Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 25, 2018
    Member:
    #270626
    Messages:
    8,322
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Todd
    Tucson, AZ
    Vehicle:
    2003 4Runner V8 Limited
    4th gen T4R with a few mods
    That part is also for a rear e-locker to convert to manual and not for the ADD on the front diff.
     
  14. Feb 24, 2021 at 9:01 PM
    #1554
    6 gearT444E

    6 gearT444E Certified Electron Pusher

    Joined:
    Feb 3, 2018
    Member:
    #243372
    Messages:
    7,601
    Deep South
    Herculiner Hootus
    Of course it is, but would give one the estimate for how much one for a transfer case or ADD would run. Again for that price you can buy an fj case and be done with it.
     
    whatstcp and vssman like this.
  15. Feb 24, 2021 at 9:02 PM
    #1555
    xtremewlr

    xtremewlr Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 25, 2018
    Member:
    #270626
    Messages:
    8,322
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Todd
    Tucson, AZ
    Vehicle:
    2003 4Runner V8 Limited
    4th gen T4R with a few mods
    For that price you could have 2 FJ cases so you have a spare that you would pretty much never need anyhow :rofl:
     
    whatstcp and 6 gearT444E[QUOTED] like this.
  16. Feb 25, 2021 at 9:24 AM
    #1556
    BassAckwards

    BassAckwards Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 3, 2016
    Member:
    #186002
    Messages:
    27,694
    Vehicle:
    2009 Tacoma
    Is anyone aware of the differences between a part time 4wd Front diff and the FJ cruiser AWD front diff other than the ADD-less axle tube on the FJC? I am wondering if there are any issues running an AWD FJ case with the taco front diff and an FJ diff tube?

    The reason i ask is because on ECGS' website, when configuring a front clamshell, it asks you to specify AWD or selectable 4wd. Just curious bc i am about to do the AWD swap this weekend
     
  17. Feb 25, 2021 at 9:30 AM
    #1557
    TireFire

    TireFire Superunknown Member

    Joined:
    Feb 6, 2016
    Member:
    #177349
    Messages:
    7,517
    Olympic Peninsula
    AWD diff doesn’t have needle bearings. What you intend should be just fine. Perhaps the concern is more the other way around, ie, using the AWD diff in a part time 4WD application with the diff stationary most of the time but the left CV and stub shaft spinning in it all the time
     
    BassAckwards[QUOTED] likes this.
  18. Feb 25, 2021 at 9:35 AM
    #1558
    6 gearT444E

    6 gearT444E Certified Electron Pusher

    Joined:
    Feb 3, 2018
    Member:
    #243372
    Messages:
    7,601
    Deep South
    Herculiner Hootus
    That may be a slight concern, but when you upgrade to an ARB, there are no needle bearings on either side so based on that feature I wouldn't think there would be any adverse affects. I've been running the AWD FJ tube up front with a part time tacoma front differential with ARB, and no issues in 4+ years.
     
    dirtyrob likes this.
  19. Feb 25, 2021 at 9:47 AM
    #1559
    6 gearT444E

    6 gearT444E Certified Electron Pusher

    Joined:
    Feb 3, 2018
    Member:
    #243372
    Messages:
    7,601
    Deep South
    Herculiner Hootus
    Here's the tacoma front diff
    upload_2021-2-25_12-41-21.jpg

    FJ cruiser diff, shown with roller bearing with ADD feature
    upload_2021-2-25_12-41-51.jpg

    ARB does not specify a separate type of carrier for AWD or 4WD, both are the RD121 for the 3.73 carrier and down and have a PFTE bushing in place of the needle bearing
    upload_2021-2-25_12-44-1.jpg

    upload_2021-2-25_12-47-25.jpg
     
    Pdugan6 likes this.
  20. Feb 25, 2021 at 9:58 AM
    #1560
    TireFire

    TireFire Superunknown Member

    Joined:
    Feb 6, 2016
    Member:
    #177349
    Messages:
    7,517
    Olympic Peninsula
    Good point, interestingly enough (at least to me, lol) the Harrop elocker DOES have the needle bearings whereas the ARB - as you say - does not. But both are 4 pinion and either OEM carrier is 2 pinion
     
    6 gearT444E[QUOTED] likes this.

Products Discussed in

To Top