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leveling my taco

Discussion in 'Suspension' started by bobbybreach, Jan 24, 2013.

  1. Jan 24, 2013 at 4:57 PM
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    so i have a 09 trd OR double cab and i want to level it out. well i wouldnt mind if there was still some rake, just a little. i have a rear TSB installed as well. from the hub to the fender the front in 20" and the rear is 23". so a total of a 3" difference. so i was wondering if i should get 5100s and set them at 1.75" and get the toytec 1/4" spacers but on the site it says they add 1/2" of lift (i dont understand that) so that would come out too 2.25" of front end lift with a difference of 3/4" from front to rear. my question is, is that an ok set up? i know spacers are bad and im trying to stay away from them and i read that i should not go to the 2.50" setting on the 5100s. any suggestions or does that sound good?
     
  2. Jan 24, 2013 at 5:09 PM
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    Ill be installing my 5100's next weekend. From what i have heard setting them at 2.5'' is rough on the truck so i had also planed on setting them at 1.75''
     
  3. Jan 24, 2013 at 5:16 PM
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    If you're not gonna wheel, spacers aren't that big of an issue. And even if you are, 1/4" spacers shouldn't give you a problem. On the other hand, I've heard setting the 5100's on any setting other than 0 is a bad idea, but that may also be just among the people who wanna wheel hard.
     
  4. Jan 24, 2013 at 5:18 PM
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    my wheeling is when i hit a pot hole on the highway going to work thats it. i just want i better stance.
     
  5. Jan 24, 2013 at 5:26 PM
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    In that case, go for it
     
  6. Jan 24, 2013 at 5:26 PM
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    I'm about to put 5100's on at 1.75 and just had the rear leaf tsb done. I have researched on here countless hours on this. This seems to be the best set up to get it level. Although some pics I have seen with this set up are nose high which I don't like. If mine comes out nose high I may consider a small block for the rear.

    It's my understanding that you're not supposed to use spacers with 5100's but some do put the 1/4 on the drivers side to correct the "Taco lean". Mine has this also. Mine sits 1/4" lower on the drivers side so I'm considering doing this.

    The spacer basically gives double the thickness in lift due to the angles of the control arms. At least that is how I understand it.

    With that said, if I put the 1/4" spacer on the drivers side I would be 1/4" taller on the drivers side. :goingcrazy: Seems there needs to be a 1/8" spacer to correct the lean.

    Look around the pics on here. Also take a jack and tape measure and lift the front to see where you like it.
     
  7. Jan 24, 2013 at 5:30 PM
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    I've done this too. No problems so far, only logged maybe 500 miles since it was installed though.
     
  8. Jan 25, 2013 at 4:41 AM
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    do you guys think that my 3" difference is alot? i have the rear TSB and the rake is 3". from what ive been reading i havent seen a stock ride hight with a rear TSB that has that much difference in a rake. ive read that with a TSB if you set the 5100s to 1.75" it should be just about perfectly level. but if i did that i would still have 1.25" rake and thats why im thinking i should add the 1/4 spacer in the front. the website says the 1/4" spacer adds 1/2" of lift and that would bring me to 2.25" of lift in the front. which leaves a 3/4" difference in rake which sounds perfect to me. does that sound right to anyone? do you think those number will be acurate when actually installed?
     
  9. Jan 25, 2013 at 4:58 AM
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    It sounds like you are on the right track my friend. I would say that the TSB springs must have given it another 1/2" over the factory ones?? I think you will be just about level with the 5100's up front.

    I'm running the 5100's at 1.75 and just the 5100 shocks in the rear, and mine is very close to level (little nose high), hense why I've been thinking about the TSB springs.
     
  10. Jan 25, 2013 at 6:24 AM
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    I think it depends on what you call level. The fenders are not equal. To me I look at the bottom of the cab compared to the ground. I see people on here say they are perfectly level but I look at that and it looks nose high to me. Not bashing what they like, it's just not level imo and the way I want it to look. Everybody has different opinions and what they like, just have to figure out how you want yours. That's my opinion anyway.

    On another note, why do the spacers? Why not go another 1/4" and set the 5100's at 2.5 and save $40? I know some have issues with the uca's at 2.5, idk if 1/4 will make that difference? Or if 2.5 is actually 2.5? From my readings on here it seems 1.75 actually gives 2". Just throwing my thoughts out there.
     
  11. Jan 25, 2013 at 7:38 AM
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    ok i never heard that the 5100s at the 1.75" actually give you 2''. thanks for that. i kept reading that a lot of people that have the 2.50" setting say its a rough ride. my taco is a daily driver so i still want it to be smooth. i would rather pay the extra $40 so my taco stays smooth. i think im gonna do the 1.75" with the 1/2" spacer. worst case scenerio if its a little nose high i will do a 1.5" AAL or take out the spacers.
     
  12. Jan 25, 2013 at 10:57 AM
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    Will the TSB springs give a truck any additional height over stock ones?
     
  13. Jan 25, 2013 at 11:24 AM
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    yes they will. when i bought my taco it was already done but from what i read the TSB will add about 1/2" to the rear end. thats gotta be why my rear end is a solid 3" higher than my front end
     
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    I have 2.5" OME 885 lift WITH 1/4" top spacers with brought my front to 23 7/16. Perhaps if you just went with the 885s without the top spacer you may bet it right at level. I have read that the 1/4" spacers provide 1/2 more of lift.

    Just a thought
     
  15. Jan 25, 2013 at 11:38 AM
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    I went the cheap route on my mall crawler and added Eibach springs to my stock billies about 1.6" of lift.

    http://www.toyteclifts.com/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage.tpl&product_id=58868&category_id=115&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=72
     
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    Yes, I just had mine done. First time I measured it gave me about 1/2". Measured again the other day and it was 7/8" more than stock. I don't know if I read it wrong the first time or maybe it was because the edge of one of my rear tires was parked on a welcome mat that sits in front of my tool box. But anyway that falls right into what I understood, that it would give 1-1 1/2" and then settle to 1/2" or so.

    Might even give you more since you have an AC. :notsure:
     
  17. Jan 25, 2013 at 6:14 PM
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    Nice! That solves it, I've needed them anyway to fix the way soft ride when haulin the 4 wheeler in the back. Plus, a 1" or so in the back would fix the little 'nose up' it has niow.

    How do the 885's ride anyway? They look nice!!!
     
  18. Jan 25, 2013 at 6:44 PM
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  19. Jan 26, 2013 at 5:20 AM
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    ok, I'll check into those. Those tires look nasty on there!! what are the wheels nelztaco?
     
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    Ok just got mine done. 1.75 and rear tsb and seems perfectly level to me. However I can tell the drivers side does sit the 1/4" lower, I think now I should have got the 1/4 spacer. May try to get one and install it later. :notsure: I just didn't think it would be noticeable.

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