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Lift approval...so I don't waste time/money

Discussion in 'Suspension' started by MHS2846bg8, Feb 7, 2011.

  1. Feb 7, 2011 at 7:41 PM
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    MHS2846bg8

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    :typing: Hey guys! I've been looking through the suspension threads and I think I have a setup that will work for my purposes...I'm planning on getting Bilstein 5100 front and rear, Eibach springs, and the toytec aal's.

    Front shocks set to 0.85 with coils for a 2.5" lift. Now should the AAL level the truck? I'm not quite sure on that...and I'm not quite sure if the rears are adjustable or not...(yeah, kinda dumb).

    Also planning on getting a front and maybe rear bumper from Relentless (once designs are finished), with a winch on the front. Since the 5100's are adjustable I should be able to compensate for possible sag, correct?

    I'm just kinda putting this out there to calm my mind about spending this much on my truck (would be my biggest mod purchase so far...) :goingcrazy:

    Also, I don't do any extreme off roading (ie large rocks, mud lakes, ect) :mudding: but I do run logging roads and occasional semi-deep mud. But maybe more after I get set up.

    Appreciate any input/opinions...Thanks for lookin!! :pccoffee:
     
  2. Feb 7, 2011 at 7:43 PM
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    If you suspect you might EVER get more serious down the road, go ahead and save for some expensive-ass coilovers (king, fox, icon, etc.) in the front. You'll thank yourself later, especially when you start adding all that armor weight.
     
  3. Feb 7, 2011 at 7:46 PM
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    Thanks for the input!!

    I probably won't ever do anything extreme in this truck because its a prerunner. Most of my off roading is light just because its a prerunner, but my rear diff lock works wonders...and the added winch will be for if I get oh shit stuck.

    Are those brand coilovers just better built or have a lot more capacity?
     
  4. Feb 7, 2011 at 7:47 PM
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    Also the eibachs will yeild 3" of lift...the consensus around here is that is as high as you should go unless you are a drop bracket, sad, or lt. If you're dead set on 3" you *could* set them at .85 WITH a front bumper to combat the sag BUT it will probably premise the springs too much and cause them to sag even more
     
  5. Feb 7, 2011 at 7:52 PM
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    Slightly higher spring rates, and slightly beefier components (particularly the shock shaft diameter), but honestly for what you're talking about, you probably won't even push the Billies. I'd stay with them.
     
  6. Feb 7, 2011 at 7:52 PM
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    Ah, is that a 1st gen thing? Other threads said the eibachs will get 2.5" when the shocks are set to .85... I didn't really want to go to 3" and try my luck at not having to purchase UCA's quite yet. I'll probably replace the UCA's down the road, but if its not needed NOW, I don't really want to spend the extra.
     
  7. Feb 7, 2011 at 7:53 PM
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    ok, cool. Thanks!
     
  8. Feb 7, 2011 at 8:05 PM
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    Eibach coils. 5100's all around. AAL. WickedFlow
    I have a second Gen with the setup above and got right around 2.5 inches.

    I went with 2inch AAL. Still have slight rake. But it made it a bit more level than stock.
     
  9. Feb 7, 2011 at 8:06 PM
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    You also might want to put some updog on there.
     
  10. Feb 7, 2011 at 8:09 PM
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    ok, slight rake isn't bad. I guess I saw the 2nd gen threads about it, but I didn't know if the coils lifted a first gen higher or something.
     
  11. Feb 7, 2011 at 8:10 PM
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    God damn second genners!!! There's this thing called a 1st gen! You'll get 2.5" with the billies set at .85 in a SECOND GEN. Rant over. 3" on the 1st gens (Aka the ones that are better than the second gens) and regardless you will probably need new ucas although they are not *required* you probably won't be able to get your alignment dialed in and mayexperience adverse handling and uneven tire wear
     
  12. Feb 7, 2011 at 8:11 PM
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    I thought all the first gens were all rusted away by now.:D
     
  13. Feb 7, 2011 at 8:14 PM
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    :woot:

    Yay for 1st gens!!

    Thanks for the clarification.

    So is it even possible to get a 2.5" with that setup or am I going to have to go with the 3"? I'll have to add the UCA's, but do I need anything else in the rear if I'm doing the front 3"?
     
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    ...rusted into the earth that you drive on! My 1st gen (now residing in bits of iron oxide in a mud pit) will swallow you're jive ass second gen whole!
     
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    Why did you park in a mud pit?:eek:
     
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    Just set the billies at 2.5 and call it a day. Your springs may sag a www bit but down the road once you have ucas you can always get eibach springs or ome springs. For the rear it depends on what you use the truck for, I'm currently debating a bunch of different options...
     
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    Ah bull headed second gen owners... My truck is rusting out and 1/2 of it is iron oxide that is back in the earth... Mud pits happen to be part of this so called "earth" I speak of. So technically my truck will swallow yours mothafucka! Damn I hate having to explain jokes :( but whateva I tend to have an abstract thinking process
     
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    I got what you mean. I tried telling a funny.:p
     
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    Gah the Internet is a tone stealing whore
     
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    yup...
     

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