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Lift Disaster, Dispair, and Correction

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by jross20, Feb 4, 2019.

  1. Feb 6, 2019 at 7:40 AM
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    The Bilstein part number is on the sticker on the shock. It seems odd that the wheel can contact the sway bar and the tire can hit the skid plate with stock wheels. Are those the original wheels to the truck? Can you get a picture showing the wheel hitting the sway bar and tire contacting the skid plate. Spacers still might be the least expensive fix for the time being until you can find the wheels/tires you want later on.

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  2. Feb 6, 2019 at 7:42 AM
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    OP, have you pulled that sway bar off yet? Start simple. The Tacoma World way is to throw money at problems. I believe the excessive caster from your UCAs is the root of your problems. Take it one step at a time. Pull that sway bar off and drive it for a couple days. Observe what changes. Your wheels and tires certainly won't be hitting the sway bar anymore. You may find that the bang isn't the shocks topping out. It may be the sway bar, maybe not though. There's only one way to find out - and it doesn't cost anything.
     
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  3. Feb 6, 2019 at 7:43 AM
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    I have 885s on 5100s, I didn't relocate my sway bar and I don't have any of the issues your having, I was on stock o/r wheels for a couple weeks also and never rubbed on anything, maybe its the swaybar relocate kit fucking everything up
     
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  4. Feb 6, 2019 at 7:45 AM
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    I also am on 885s and 5100s, but I have a V6 4x4 - which is heavier than OP's truck. My caster is at 2.5 with SPC arms, not 5.5 like OP's.
     
  5. Feb 6, 2019 at 8:08 AM
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    So you had a shop do the install? Then why aren’t you at the door of that shop asking them why your shit is getting torn up?

    Also 1.25” spacers are absolutely not adding any extra wear to your bearings. Not any extra wear that aftermarket wheels aren’t doing.
     
  6. Feb 6, 2019 at 9:10 AM
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    anything further out from factory offset puts more load on the bearings and hands down will wear them out quicker.

    OP should have ZERO issues with that wheel and tire size (i run the same wheel on my trd or, and a bigger tire 265/75R16) WITH the swaybar in a factory location at a 2in lift with zero rubbing. That stated i do have SPC UCA's and caster around 2* with the spc UCA'as at a forward ball position for only 1* extra caster out of the UCA vs factory. (front tire further forward in the wheel well)
     
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  7. Feb 6, 2019 at 9:13 AM
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    changing your suspension also puts extra wear on your truck but no ones complaining about that, I've had bearings go bad with stock wheels and aftermarket wheels. the wear difference is negligible if you off road your truck anyways
     
  8. Feb 6, 2019 at 9:38 AM
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    Technically raising the truck changes wear points MUCH less than a 1.25in spacer on the hub. Stock TRD OR wheel is a +25 or 30mm offset depending on where you get your info from. A 1.25in spacer gets rid of essentially all or more of that offset. So you go from a wheel that is centered over wheel bearings to now having a lever arm on a hub. Yes its going to wear out wheel bearings much faster like that.
     
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  9. Feb 6, 2019 at 9:49 AM
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    Well I don't really think they would know since they don't specialize in Tacoma's or anything like that.

    I imagine most places would say if you're going aftermarket it's up to you.
     
  10. Feb 6, 2019 at 9:53 AM
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    small price to pay to have nice wheels though :rolleyes:
     
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  11. Feb 6, 2019 at 9:56 AM
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    Those have adjustable caster don't they? I should have gotten the adjustable ones, damn.

    I'm still curious to see if when lowered, if the extra space for the camber free's up some room for caster. My old OEM uca's really look too shit to put them back on.
     
  12. Feb 6, 2019 at 10:59 AM
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    Yeah it makes sense if you are having rubbing issues where you are with such high caster arms up top and your lift amount and how far back the wheels are in the wheel well to get caster at not crazy high numbers.

    Yup the SPC UCA's have 0 to +4* extra caster adjustment over like 6 different adjustments for caster.
     
  13. Feb 6, 2019 at 11:06 AM
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    First thing, if you jack up the front of your truck and have very little droop, either your coil springs are too stiff or they are compressed too much, secondly take the SWAY BAR extension mounts off! (They are not needed unless you have a 6" lift)
    Third, I have to use 1.25 spacers with my TC uca's and 17" wheels to clear everything.
    Just Do the first 2 things I mentioned and see if that helps.
     
  14. Feb 6, 2019 at 11:14 AM
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    They’re not putting any extra stress on the wheel bearings that aftermarket wheels wouldn’t add.

    Millions of people run aftermarket wheels on their vehicles and do not run into bearing issues.
     
  15. Feb 6, 2019 at 11:17 AM
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    Judging by all of the OP’s responses to any help people are trying to give him, tells me that he is stubborn and has no idea what he is doing. With that being said, have fun doing whatever you’re going to do and I’m I subbing because this is a waste of anyone’s time trying to help. :bananadead::bananadead:
     
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  16. Feb 6, 2019 at 11:41 AM
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    Correct, less offset / negative offset wheels will add just as much stress as OEM rims + spacers. That stated, either combo ads significant more stress than stock offset.
     
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  17. Feb 6, 2019 at 12:20 PM
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    You know adjustable ones sound great but I read so many nightmare things about the spc's... Are the JBL's adjustable?

    Right I am going to remove the sway bar this Saturday weather permitting.
    I'll report back then!

    What.......?

    Did you ever read the whole thread? Go troll somewhere else.
     
  18. Feb 6, 2019 at 12:21 PM
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    Yeah I'm not looking to unbalance the bearings, I believe stock is 50/50 right? I'll keep it there
    :eek:
     
  19. Feb 6, 2019 at 12:32 PM
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    Positive/negative offset plus wider wheels and bigger than stock Tires and adding wheel spacers. ALL of these things will adversely affect how long your bearings/Hubs will last.
     
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  20. Feb 6, 2019 at 12:33 PM
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    Yeah that's why I want to keep it as close to stock as possible
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