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Lifter Noise on 2009 V6

Discussion in 'Technical Chat' started by JoeSchmuck, May 23, 2009.

  1. May 23, 2009 at 7:23 AM
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    JoeSchmuck

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    I have noticed what appears to be lifter noise (clanking) on my engine, noticed it shortly after buying it. I have just over 500 miles on it and was hoping it would go away (wishfull thinking) and cuirious if this is normal. The engine could be hot or cold, makes no difference. It's only annoying that it may be out of adjustment and causing undue wear or contributing to less gas mileage. I will probably live with it until time for the first oil change, take it to the dealer (free oil changes) and make them listen to it first and try to explain what's going on. If it's not better when I leave the dealership I plan to install a high quality synthetic motor oil but I would expect that to make things louder, but overall engine wear would be better.

    Any thoughts on the lifter noise, is this normal for this new engine?

    Thanks,
    Joe
     
  2. May 23, 2009 at 7:32 AM
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    chris4x4

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    Its normal for Toyota truck engines. Many things contribute to the "Lifter Tick" and generally loud engine characteristic. Fuel injectors, timing chain, emisions purge device, and the Shim under Bucket design of the valve train.
     
  3. May 23, 2009 at 8:05 AM
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  4. May 23, 2009 at 9:14 AM
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  5. May 24, 2009 at 4:00 AM
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    Now that sounds like something I've said all this week to a customer dealing with a software delivery. ;)

    Also, Thanks to all who replied. Guess I'll not give this another though until I get to the dealers and I'll still ask them. I already figured they would say it was normal.

    Cheers,
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  6. May 24, 2009 at 4:38 AM
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    Same noise on my 09, took it in three times, each time told it was normal. Trying to ignore it.
     
  7. May 25, 2009 at 5:22 AM
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    I guess the good thing is to have it documented that you took it in three times that way if it does fail you at least have something to fall back on. I will still take mine in and see what they say. I'm expecting the same answer but at least it will be documented.

    Thanks all for those answers.

    Joe
     
  8. May 26, 2009 at 6:02 PM
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    I hadn't left the lot yet before I noticed the noise. I pulled right into the service bay where the service manager checked it and said it was the injectors. It's the noisiest Toy engine I have ever had with less than 200K miles on it.

    YMMV,

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  9. May 26, 2009 at 6:16 PM
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    Hmm.... I have the same issue but and hoped it was just the engines "way of sounding" and not the lifters. Glad I'm not going crazy. ;)
     
  10. May 26, 2009 at 6:56 PM
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    The Tacoma uses Shim under Bucket valve adjusters. There is always going to be a bit of "play" in them. When you hear the term "Lifter tick", as there are no "Lifters" in the Tacoma engines, what you hear are the valve buckets "tapping" or "Ticking". Its completely normal. Also, Toiyota doesnt try and use sound dampeners or baffles in their engines to reduce what you hear. Those cost money, and would more than likely affect the bottom line. FWIW, If you want to hear a nosisy engine, Drop by a Duccati or Triumph dealer. :)
     
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    That is exactly why I am doing it.
     
  12. May 27, 2009 at 11:33 AM
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    Sure there are. They're just mechanical and not hydraulic.
     
  13. May 27, 2009 at 11:34 AM
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    Yes, Your correct.
     
  14. May 27, 2009 at 11:36 AM
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    I noticed the noise as well. Not a huge issue, but the noisiest 'new' engine I've heard outside of any Ducati ever made.
     
  15. May 27, 2009 at 4:40 PM
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    So, the engine is a 1GR-FE and am I correct in stating this is an Intake VVT-i only engine? I have the 2009 model.

    I have found some literature in the form of the engine manual and did not see any shims listed for the valve train. I didn't see any adjustments of any sort. Maybe that is why it's noisy? I'm sure there is an adjustment.

    So there has been "lifter noise" since 2003 when this engine was first introduced?

    Cheers,
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  16. May 27, 2009 at 5:11 PM
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    I dont think there are rockers on the 1gr-fe engine...The cams push down on the Buckets, which are on the valve stems. No threaded adjusters, as different thinckness buckets are use for adjusting the valves. Cant find a pic, and I dont want to take my valve cover off right now to take a pic. :eek:
     
  17. May 27, 2009 at 5:15 PM
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    If you want to hear a nosisy engine, Drop by a Duccati or Triumph dealer.
    Very true:)
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  18. May 27, 2009 at 5:16 PM
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    LOL, I had a 900ss (big bore kit), and a couple of Trumpets. ;)
     
  19. May 27, 2009 at 5:19 PM
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    Sweet! I'm hopin to upgrade to a sport clasic 1000 soon :)
     
  20. May 27, 2009 at 6:11 PM
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    You are correct. I downloaded a FSM for a 2006 Tacoma with the 1GR-FE engine. Here is the adjustment procedure for the valves and very true, no shims but the lifter cap is replaced with the proper height cap.

    Also you can anyone can d/l these manuals from the following url: http://www.ncttora.com/fsm/

    Thanks for all the help.

    Joe
     

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