Lightweight all terrain tire

lol, sorry man. Didn't mean it to come off as bashing. I did read them first and thought their choices were odd, so I questioned "who is doing this review, and what was tested". The reviews read like a online tire retailer to me...then saw the link back to DTD.

I think we all need to question where information is acquired these days. Anyway, didn't mean any harm, thanks for the link

 

I loved my KO2's!

 

Np, I do agree we have look into where the info came from as well. I had started doing research on tires to find out what was out there for my truck. Thinking I would start slow and have time till next spring to upgrade my tires. Well that change when I ran over a cable pro. So did a lot of reading here and other place to decide which tires to run with for now. I'm running cooper discover at3 which are a good tire for the type of on and off road driving I do here.

 

Subbing for future reference. I have the KO2's and they've been a great tire and are looking to last around 50K miles. I've got another year of life before they'll need to be replaced, but when that time comes I will not be getting the KO2's for all the reasons the OP states.

great thread

 

It sounds like the OP already ordered something, but I've had good luck with the p rated Michelin LTX AT2. A pretty mild AT, so they didn't hurt mileage and performance too badly.

I haven't had them in Ohio mud, but they seemed for do pretty well on some wet Michigan two track roads in May.

 

I have Toyo AT2s, LT265/75/16 (C rated) at 45 lbs each, tread depth 16/32.

Toyo:352610 (black side wall)

Put 20k+ miles on them and they are doing great

 

Cooper ATP's have taken me up mountains and over huge dunes. I am 2wd and 4cyl. You can feel the difference because they are 285/70r17's, but pose no threat to my power whatsoever!

 

So how much offroading and winter driving is needed to consider "A/T" tires? I'm looking at 98% road/city driving with frequent hiking, camping, and beach trips. Nothing where there won't be an extabilished road, but different surfaces will be encountered. I don't want to be out and have to say, "well, I can't go on the beach without changing my tires" or "I can't go hiking until I take off these factory Michelins".

 

Sounds like you're in the same situation as I was. I found the factory "highway" tires got kinda squirrelly in any snow, but were still pretty manageable if I didn't get to crazy on the gas pedal. The Michelen LTX AT2s that I have on now seemed to be a good compromise as the tread pattern falls somewhere between a highway tire and an AT. I haven't had them in snow, yet, but they performed very well on dirt roads with muddy washouts.

 

Long gone are the days or ruining AT tires by street driving them. Modern Rubber does a very good job at resisting destruction over time. I'm 85 to 90% city driving and my coopers hold up fantastic!

 

I feel your pain on this one. They are awesome tires but make the truck feel like a turd on the streets. On the highway it will down shift at the slightest incline and try to go into 3rd on a hill that before wouldn't. I live in the desert so I off-road in the winter and barely at all in the summer so maybe I'm just annoyed with only street driving. I have a long time to think about it though these damn things last forever.

 

its going to be the best tire you will ever own. I have not found a NON dedicated snow / ice tire that does as good as the michelin defender m/s (aka ms2) in all conditions outside of mud or deep snow. Seriously. the M/S will blow your mind on icy roads... in my old truck i used to play "lets see how far we can get to the ski resort up the steep windy icy mtn road in 2wd".... id never have to put it in 4wd unless i for some reason had to stop middle of a hill. No other all season tire has come close, not even my current hankook dynapro atm's

Im actually considering going back to the M/S on my tacoma but i do like the look of a more aggressive AT tire, and i do find myself on more than just fire roads on occasion.

 

I like Procomp Xtreme All-Terrain... lightweight, performance on/off road, looks aggressive. But seems to wear quickly and then gets noisy. Currently running ko2's.

 

I don't really worry about "ruining" them, I'm just weighing the Cooper AT3 and the aforementioned Michelins. The Michelins aren't technically an "A/T" tire, so I was trying to figure out which would be best. I don't want to sacrifice camping trips because the Michelins can't handle a little snow, mud, or sand.

 

Well, it's kind of the only reason NOT to get all terrains, but since that's not an issue, then why the hold up??

Get them Coopers!

 

Michelin LTX A/T 2, 39lbs in 265/65r17. Great tire, awesome warranty. Costco stocks them and they last forever. Had them on my old tacoma and put 50,000 on them with a decent amount of wear left. They don't have the aggressive look like other A/T's, but damn do they perform.

 

Holdup? Because everybody says the Michelins are possibly better than the Coopers and I haven't found a definitive answer. lol If the Coopers are better on and off-road, then it's a no brainer. But it seems a lot of reviews say the Michelins are better for wet driving. I live in Seattle. So driving will be probably 70% dry, 25% wet, 5% snow/mud/sand. But I don't want to hit the beach or mountains with the Michelins and get stuck. I'm not going crazy off-roading, just typical camping stuff.

 

My ATP's have looong since proven themselves. This is my second set, and don't really care to look back. From monsoons in PHX, to black ice in Tahoe, to deep sand in ocotillo and glamis, they have never been an issue.

Good luck choosing

I recommend the Coopers, again

 

Thanks!