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Liking the Tacoma and why

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by Dondo, Dec 11, 2010.

  1. Dec 11, 2010 at 10:53 AM
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    Dondo

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    I have not known how to handle this, but it is something that I need to get off my chest. First and foremost, this really is a pretty good site. Most of the threads have been helpful, entertaining and informative. I lurk around on this site quite a bit and it is obvious that almost everyone here loves their Tacoma. I just wish I could call myself one of them. I bought a 2010 TRD Sport about 11 months ago. It was brand new, literally off the show room floor. If anyone were to look around at my past posts, I had the dealer install the overload springs once I discovered that I could only load about 300 lbs in the bed before the springs would hit the bump stops while driving. Let's list that as red flag number one. Red flag number two has been the quirky transmission shifting. I posted on here a couple of times asking about the irritating downshift problem the transmission has while coasting. It feels like engine braking when I am letting the truck coast to a stop, at least until it drops into second gear, then it coasts just fine. The dealer told me that they all do that and this is just how they work. They even road around with me and said "this doesn't seem that disagreeable". To me, that means that they could notice it as well, but would not do anything about it. Red flag number three. The lower speaker in the passenger side door buzzes when you step on the throttle. A $27,000 vehicle should not be doing that. Come on Toyota. Red flag number four. With less than 7k miles, the cab of the truck makes more noise than any other new vehicle I have ever owned. This is my daily driver and it is rarely on rough roads. It sounds like the dash board is loose, something internal, behind the glove box, kind of a rattle/buzz sound that just drives me crazy. There is also something lose in the passenger door that I cannot get to stop rattling either.

    Okay, now that this is off my chest, I am just having a hard time seeing what everyone loves about these trucks. Yes, I will admit, they sure look great and from what I understand, you should be able to drive them forever. The after market is strong and they are very popular trucks. Are my standards just too high? I have owned several brand new vehicles including, 98 Mustang, 01 Dakota, 04 Altima, and an 08 Sierra. I have had more complaints and trips to the dealer with this Toyota than i have with all my other cars combined.

    Please do not take this the wrong way. I really want to love this truck as much as everyone else here loves theirs, but i just can't seem to get to that point. I want to look forward to driving it, but as it is now, I am typically mad at the thing before I get to my destination. I realize that there really is nothing that anyone here can do. What I am looking for I guess is simply someone else who has had some issues with their trucks. I am not Toyota bashing, but it really is hard to not paint all Toyota vehicles with the same brush when I am having these issues which I believe to be lack of quality control from Toyota

    Just had to vent a little. Thanks for reading.

    Dondo
     
  2. Dec 11, 2010 at 10:57 AM
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    Hunter500ky

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    Everyone has their ups and downs.

    Some trucks are built better then the others. (like mine has no noise in the cab what so ever)

    I have wanted this truck since I was 15!!!!

    I'm having issues with it right now and its at the dealership getting work done but I LOVE my truck.

    Why?

    Its MINE, It gets me where I need to go, it has 4x4, Its a taco when SHTF it wont stop running it will keep trucking, How many tacos do you see on the side of the road broke down?, how many taco's do you see scrapped in the junk yard because they are junk?


    Its up to you bro!

    I LOVE my truck and if the engine falls out I will replace it and keep driving my beloved truck.

    If you feel there are to many issues maybe you should try another truck.


    But just a little FYI Im sure you know this.



    Edit from what I understand our trucks DO have engine brake.

    Vehicles are not built like they used to be.


    edit edit

    One last thing everything is a mind set, if you continue only seeing the negatives you will never love your truck. You have had nice cars all your life it seems. This is my first NICE vehicle and I LOVE her she is my beauty and my best.

    You have to be in a mind set about if you want to love your truck or not. It's just like a woman, (seriously) when you find the right one you KNOW you will have her back through thick and thin. I have my fiancee's back if its her against one person or the whole world. Just like my truck I love her, if she breaks I will fix her, if she tries to quit I wont let her quit.
     
  3. Dec 11, 2010 at 11:09 AM
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    Enzo

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    I know where your coming from man, I had a 98 tacoma trd and loved it but traded it in after a few years for a car. Well after years went by I wanted to get back into a Toyota and ended up getting a used 09 DC trd OR. The more I drive it the more crap I find wrong with it. I had the radio replaced, rear leaf TSB done but now my blower motor sounds retarded, the truck has a vibration at around 60 mph and the dealer can't fix it. I really really love Toyotas but dam their quality control dept in the US needs to lay off the pipe. I know my issues are minor compared to others but I expected more from Toyota bc I know they can build a quality product.
     
  4. Dec 11, 2010 at 12:23 PM
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    Feeling your pain a little bit anyway.
    Had a few similar issues initially. Trans shifting funny and springs. But I will give my truck a bit of credit as well. Went through my first hunting season. Off roading (primarily logging roads and fields) from September through December and nary a rattle to bother me.
    I do miss my F150 though. Bigger, more comfortable but gas mileage was no comparison. As I have a 2010 as well I will likely keep it till it's paid off and maybe a bit longer. If I were doing it today, I would go back to what I had before. But, we'll have to wait about 5 years and you never know what will be out there then. I don't think so much that Toyota has slipped. I really believe that the rest have stepped it up a notch.
    good luck with your truck. Ken
     
  5. Dec 11, 2010 at 12:31 PM
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    sooner02r1

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    I agree the payload capacity is a gripe for me, but only about 1 time per year do I wish it would haul more.

    The downshifting, though, I LOVE. I hate when I let of the gas in a vehicle and it keeps going the same speed (i.e. Chevy trucks). When I let off the gas I want the truck to slow down. I think this comes from driving a manual most of my life, but it really helps on brake wear if you can coast to scrub speed. This has to have been designed on purpose, and for good reason - to save brakes. Drive a sports car and you'll see that they do it too.

    My truck has been rattle free, even with the off road miles it has traveled. Sorry to hear yours is noisy.

    I have owned many other brands of trucks and so far I love this truck, sorry to hear you don't, maybe you're a fullsize truck guy if you need to haul a buttload of weight and want a cushier interior.
     
  6. Dec 11, 2010 at 1:41 PM
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    That is exactly what the truck is programmed to do--to downshift while you're "coasting". It provides engine braking, and it keeps the drivetrain ready to reapply power if you step on the gas.

    The dealership couldn't "fix" it because there is nothing to fix.
     
  7. Jan 13, 2011 at 10:13 AM
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    im ready to set my access cab on fire, and call the insurance company... i have had all the problems your describing plus more..

    ive tried 3 different dealerships, all comeback with no problems found.. or its working as designed..

    the worst part is my g/f works for one of them, and they dont even care.
     
  8. Jan 13, 2011 at 11:02 AM
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    Captspaulding1000

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    this op has a really good point. After 2 nissan titians i thought it was time for a change and since i do not need a big truck anymore (work supplies a 3/4 ton) i bought a brand new 2010 tacoma. I have had way to many problems with this truck and it only has 10000 kms. two blower motors replaced cracked leaf spring replaced and a couple of could not reproduce on interior rattles. when i go over bumps (ruts in the snow that freeze to ice) it sounds like the front is going to fall off this truck. at least its still better than both the dodges i have owned. Not sure what i am going to do. do not get me wrong it is the best looking truck in this category but might not be for me.
     
  9. Jan 13, 2011 at 11:12 AM
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    joerussell610

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    What we all have to understand here is that these machines are man made. Your gonna have a few bad ones out there. Be lucky you dont drive a VW they are all BAD! We just hear more about certain issues more because well thats what we are here. Been driving my truck going on 6 years 80k. Not one problem. Love it! Would get another one! :stirthepot:
     
  10. Jan 13, 2011 at 11:15 AM
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    I can look past my dash rattle, ill take my 16.5 mpg over my hemi rams 10 mpg any day.
     
  11. Jan 13, 2011 at 11:16 AM
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    Thanks for the replies everyone. While it really doesn't help matters much, I do feel a little better that I am not the only one that thinks he bought into the whole "Toyota's are a quality vehicle" only to realize that this opinion varies from model to model. Why would Toyota change anything on a best selling in class truck? Despite the issues I have with them, you see these little trucks all over the place.

    I guess I can live with the silly shifting thing (Toyota will sacrifice fuel mileage to save on brake pads and comfortable ride, with the idea of having power 1/4 second sooner in case of an emergency will really make that much of a difference), but the dash rattles thing is unacceptable. Looks like I will be forced to accept it until I trade off the truck.

    Dondo
     
  12. Jan 13, 2011 at 11:29 AM
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    I got mine last week. No noises, problems, anything. And it's a 2006. I know a bunch of other people that have them too..... and they absolutely LOVE theirs. Like you said, there will always be a couple bad ones out there, no matter what it is.

    Yeah sorry man, seems like you got a bad egg. I have driven toyotas my whole life, with the exception of a ford explorer (NEVER getting a ford again), and toyotas are a quality vehicle. My grandfather was upper management in our GMC transmission plant here in toledo..... and i still buy toyotas.... whats that tell you?

    What did the dealer say about the rattle?
     
  13. Jan 13, 2011 at 5:20 PM
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    I just got a 2011 a couple weeks ago, and have wanted one since I was 16. First truck I've owned, the only other truck I'd ever consider owning is a Nissan Titan. But for the next 10 years, my Tacoma is going to be my baby.

    I haven't dealt with any of these issues yet (granted, I only have 400 miles on it), but if I do, I'll still love my Taco!
     
  14. Jan 13, 2011 at 5:53 PM
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    I love mine too (only 36K miles)! Although, I have a funny rattling sound from the engine compartment when the idle settles after starting up in the cold. It sounds like rocks being rattled in a plastic bucket. The dealer checked it out for 2 days and said they could not find anything abnormal. My radio's haunted too.

    My 06 Camry (2.4), which has 108K and doesn't get treated as well doesn't make any noises, go figure...
     
  15. Jan 13, 2011 at 5:55 PM
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    BUCKLE UP! It makes it harder for Aliens to pull you out of your Truck.
    Try using silcone grease on the rubber gasket that seals the hood at the cowl; In my experience it has been the hood shifting on dry bump stops or weatherstripping when going over bumps that sounds like a big crack or rattle under the dash! Steve
     
  16. Jan 13, 2011 at 6:07 PM
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    Bummer... none of that is acceptable and not normal.
    I have a 2010 (but an Off Road 4WD, not a Sport) and it is my third new Tacoma OR 4WD. The '01 was perfect, the '05 had a couple of issues including the soft rear springs, wire harness, and brake noise and poor stopping ABS... but the plusses still outnumbered the minuses.

    The '10 so far is nearly perfect (like the '01) with only a tranny drip when it was new and fixed... It is a superior off road vehicle to any I have owned my whole life (thank you TRAC and A-TRAC), and the springs never bottomed out like the '05 did... so no TSB needed.

    I would contact your Toyota factory area manager or whatever the title is and resolve these issues that you should not have... don't spend any more time at that dealer, as he isn't doing his job it seems from your post.

    If you wanted a truck with problems brand new, you would have bought a Chevy, right?
     
  17. Jan 13, 2011 at 6:12 PM
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    travis9287

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    When i get mad at my truck and think it could be better i just look at how blessed i am to even have a ride. there is alot people that dont even have a decent ride. Like some mentioned above^ its all a mind set, if you think your truck is crap, you will notice every problem. if you think your truck is the best, the little things wont bother you as much.
     
  18. Jan 13, 2011 at 6:29 PM
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    Well your fan motor is a fairly common problems should not be. The truck cuts all fuel until 1200 rpm in the downshifting improves gas mileage by preventing coasting and burning gas.

    What annoys me are the ignorant posters we have on the site who continuously say things like that downshifting are not normal or are bad in any way. I hate ignorant people.
     
  19. Jan 13, 2011 at 6:59 PM
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    skistoy

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    Its fairly simple
    they put in the softer springs because the mass majority of people
    that buy the truck want a car like ride.
    In fact when you test drove your truck you were probably
    impressed with the car like ride, i know i was.

    so us in the minority, we wanted a true truck
    but they dont make trucks to sell to the minority.
    so TSB or AAL and then you will have the truck of your dreams.
     
  20. Jan 13, 2011 at 7:24 PM
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    If Toyota wanted to build the real truck they would have put full float axles and HD frame under it and make truck smaller with less traction control crap. But as pointed above thanks to all those pictures on internet many mall crawlers are buying those trucks, so Toyota made the ride nice and comfortable because many owners are more worried about spilling latte then payload capacity. hell as long as they can pose at the mall to pickup some chicks thats all payload they need. :D
     
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