Limited without OEM Tonneau Cover

Thought I had ordered 4X4 Limited without OEM Tonneau Cover. Got fair price and didn't haggle. Told them what I wanted with the caveat that if it came with the factory tonneau cover it was a deal breaker. Told them delivery time wasn't an issue as I was willing to wait 4+ months. They assured me no problem; thankful for my business and patience.
About 4-5 weeks they called and said truck should be there shortly snd gave me VIN#. Less than a week later they called and said truck was in but had OEM Tonneau Cover BUT they were willing to 'cut' it off and not charge me.
Here is the rub. My wife uses the truck fairly often to get estate sale furniture and resale it. We need a cover that would allow all three sections to fold up against the back glass so the majority of the truck bed could be utilized for stuff the was higher than the bed walls. Now, I thought it was gracious for the dealership to take the cover that came with the truck ($799 option) but after looking at 8-10 manfs. of after market covers, none of these require butchering the truck bed like the Toyota cover does. As my choice the Bakflip fits flush, where the truck bed is cut out to allow installation of the heavy, cumberson Toyota cover would leave 4 inch holes for the decent cover to leak. So from what I'm getting so far, if you order the top of the line Tacoma (I know many perfer TRD etc.), you are stuck with a heavy, hideous cover that requires cutting and drilling to your truck body to install. Plus you lose the use tracks for the adjustable cleats. Not so on the 2016 BakFlip. I would like to know if this tonneau cover was designed by the Japaneese or was it engineered by a loser group of Americans? Americans can build stuff they just can't design shift. Does anyone know if the Limited can be bought without the OEM (POS) Toyota tonneau cover.

 

The OEM Tonneau is a great cover in my experience. Very watertight, secure, and easy to use. I understand that for your application, its not a good solution as you said you need the last third of the cover to fold up as well.

With that being said, you're not "stuck" with a heavy hideous cover (you already said the dealer is taking it off) which is $650, not $800. I agree with you the plastic side bed rails, once cut, do not look as clean, and would be pretty upset to get a cut up new truck as well. However, I can't imagine a bed cover that would leak with the removal of these sections. At least on my truck, none of the cut portions extend into the top of the bed, which is the only piece that has the potential to be exposed. I'd see if you had anything in writing from the time you ordered the truck, and request that they order replacement plastic bed "rails" at no cost to you.

Also, as an American engineer who works with Japanese suppliers, we tend to be pretty good at design work

 

If they are pulling off the OEM cover aren't they replacing the rails that are cut into? I wouldn't accept it if they didn't...

 

I ordered a 2016 and it does not have a factory cover.

 

They can switch the rail caps with another truck, now you have what you want and they can add the cost of the cover to the other truck and no one loses.

 

I appreciative all of your responses. I didn't think about what you suggest and couldn't really tell exactly what they had to cut to make the installation.. Even had one of the service managers trying to figure out how hard it would be to temp. remove each time if necessary. I still have my 320,000 mile Tundra so I'm not in a hurry. At 67 this could very well be my "croke' truck. I would like to make this work for the salesman as much time as he as spent trying to help a geezer. Tnx Again fellows.

 

Bakflip will do exactly what you are looking for in a TC. I have the HD on my Tacoma and I love it. I agree that if they are taking it off the rails, they should be replaced with stock non cover type.

 

I picked up a limited with no oem cover. I didn't like the oem cover they had to cut up the bed. I went with an extang 2.0, easy on/off and light weight.

 

So weird. After getting your excellent feedback suggesting swapping rails etc., I called the original salesman and told I was going to stop by the dealership, that I had posted online and got some suggestions. His reply was they had no idea if that could be done on the present vehicle or any vehicle where a swap would be beneficial. It didn't surprise me as the other day went I went to see the truck, even though it was a OEM tonneau cover, the service man looked at it like it was from outer space and had no idea about if it could be temp. removed or how.
Back to the phone call where I was coming by/the salesman asked, do I want them to order me one without the tonneau cover. I told him that is what we originally agreed upon. His reply was how much time he had spent with me etc. Now the total time he spent with me we when we agreed on price(they gave me an offer; I accepted) might have been an hour at the most. Whereas I felt bad for the salesman before because I didn't want the truck that they got for me that I didn't want (sounds funny but that is what happened) I've now cleared my conscience on that regard. To recount, when I ordered the truck I stated succinctly that if it had the OEM tonneau it would be a deal breaker (and I used that term). At the time I ordered I offered to put any amount down or even pay for it completely. They did say nothing would be required before hand. So we are back to the salesman letting me know this coming Monday how long it will take to get what I asked for. Before time wasn't an issue and it isn't now other than if the wait period is significant I might as well wait until the 2017's come out. Does anyone know when that is anticipated. Hey, another dealership where I originally started looking let me drive 50 miles to test drive the vehicle they said they had available only for it to be pulled up on the display pedestal and blocked in. They were to call me back when one was available to test drive. When I didn't hear from the for six weeks I called to find out, "that salesman is no longer with us". I'm not that hard to deal with and I am at a point in my life where I don't feel like I have to get the infamous "Best Deal".
As I told the salesman where I thought I had ordered a specific truck, I don't really need leather, 4X4, a sunroof etc., just WANT it. What I do have to have is a tonneau cover and one that allows me full access to the entire bed occasionally, hence the "Deal Breaker" comment. I even had him paraphrase it back to me so there would be no misunderstanding. We shall see. Oh, does it not concern everyone that when you get a new Tacoma, the service departments have never heard of the low transmission fluid issue and have to have their arms twisted to make them check it properly. There has been a complete paradigm shift in the sales/service part of the Toyota experience that I had been accustomed.

 

Bo don't know where you live but the toyota dealer in flemington nj has a MGM limited sitting on the lot with no tonneau cover.

 

Swapping caps is no big deal. A few on here have sold their cover and a cap swap was involved, cause you wouldn't want cut caps with no cover, and you wouldn't want to cut more caps if you don't have to. I copied a post here, you can show it to your salesman.

 

Or try this
https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads...e-included-seattle-area.416878/#post-11973097

 

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Hope you don't fly on airplanes fucktard.

Also hope you enjoy many other aspects of your Tacoma that were designed by a loser group of Americans.

 

He's an old man from Alabama... what vast amounts of knowledge on Engineering did you expect of him?

 

"Americans can build stuff they just can't design shift."

Rofl Americans design some of the best stuff on the planet. Look at the atom bomb, Robinson helicopters and every other american made product.

 

Sounds like you really need an enclosed trailer.

 

Served in USMC, one son is a Special Forces Medic (deployed twice so far). Oldest son graduated from Auburn Univ in Electric Eng with honors. Auburn has a decent eng school but he said if he hadn't worked on the electric car project he wouldn't have gotten any of what he expected from engineering. He went into the Naval Nuclear program and served as an officer on a fasr attack nuclear sub. In the nuclear part of the Navy all officers on a sub are nuclear qualified so you get to work on anything from the reactor/plant to the garbage disposal etc. On a service ship all nuclear qualified officers are assigned to the nuclear plant. He felt subs were his best chance to learn to be an engineer beyond what he was exposed to? in college. He was accepted to M.I.T. for Masters program but upon the advice of many of his engineering friends opted to get MBA from Boston Univ. Read a little bit about Edward Deming the American Engineer that was the guiding force in the Japanese Automotive Industry after WWII. How many of you have a GE or RCA television? We've lost ground on what we once had because of more reasons than can be covered here. Yeah, I can just see a 6 person "Tiger Team" of American engineers making about $150,000+ a year coming up with that awesome tonneau cover that requires cutting the rails. I worked in the electrical industry. We don't build transformers, circuit breakers static var compensators or capacitors anymore. They are German, Japanese, Swedish etc. Our problem in this Country now is not the Engineers but rather the people our companies choose to be in charge of engineers. So many of our products are crap. Our workers can build stuff. Anyway...Tnx for the suggestions and I deserved the other comments. I remember when all we bought from Japan was tin toys (before plastics). We can damn sure make good hamburgers and fried chicken tho.

 

What year is your tundra?

 

Oh Jesus.

 

Bragging about your childrens accomplishments doesnt make your argument any better. In fact its like that guy who says well my cousin was a navy seal. Useless and not worth bringing up.