1. Welcome to Tacoma World!

    You are currently viewing as a guest! To get full-access, you need to register for a FREE account.

    As a registered member, you’ll be able to:
    • Participate in all Tacoma discussion topics
    • Communicate privately with other Tacoma owners from around the world
    • Post your own photos in our Members Gallery
    • Access all special features of the site

Load Range E instead of C?

Discussion in 'Wheels & Tires' started by 709GADE, Jul 24, 2015.

  1. Jul 24, 2015 at 8:59 AM
    #1
    709GADE

    709GADE [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 17, 2009
    Member:
    #26073
    Messages:
    315
    Gender:
    Male
    Vehicle:
    '09 Toyota Tacoma 4X4 SR5 DC LB - Pyrite Mica
    Toyota aluminium side steps, Toyota door sill protectors Extang trifecta tonneau cover, U-Haul Class 3 hitch, Black Weathertech's, Front mudflaps trimmed 4", OEM Fog Lights, WeatherTech Bug Deflector, 13" Stubby antenna, TRD Skid Plate, ScanGaugeII, Carriage Works Billet Grille, Plasti Dipped overhead temp/compass console, LT265/75/16 Duratrac's LR C
    I am probably going to be banned for all these questions regarding tires, but I have another one...;)

    I decided on the Duratrac LT265/75/16 Load Range C and had them ordered in yesterday ($202 per tire with a $40 rebate on 4 tires). The Duratracs showed up at the garage today and I went and looked at them and found that they were Load Range E. The service guy said he would sell them to me for the same price as the Load Range C's. So now I am wondering if the Load Range E's would cost me too many MPG's or is there a significant difference in the MPG drop from the C's to the E's? What would you do? Load range C's are on back order until December.

    Thanks :confused:
     
    Last edited: Jul 24, 2015
  2. Jul 24, 2015 at 9:15 AM
    #2
    steelhd

    steelhd Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 15, 2013
    Member:
    #118650
    Messages:
    3,505
    Gender:
    Male
    Eastern WA
    Vehicle:
    2011 DCSB TRD OR
    What it's the weight difference per tire between the 6 plys you ordered and 10 ply they are offering?
     
  3. Jul 24, 2015 at 9:17 AM
    #3
    DriverSound

    DriverSound Señor Member

    Joined:
    Mar 29, 2009
    Member:
    #15329
    Messages:
    5,851
    Gender:
    Male
    Oregon
    Vehicle:
    2015 DCSB OR 4x4
    Too few to list.
    I think the Load Range C is around 45 and E's are 51lbs according to TireRack. I specifically bought Load C as E's are heavy for occasional off road use only. Plus if I was going E's, I would have given the new KO2's a try. I don't know less of mileage will be impacted but there will be an impact.
     
    Last edited: Jul 24, 2015
  4. Jul 24, 2015 at 9:17 AM
    #4
    geekhouse23

    geekhouse23 The "Liftman" - @DrFunker

    Joined:
    Jul 14, 2013
    Member:
    #108251
    Messages:
    15,686
    Gender:
    Male
    Vehicle:
    2GMGMDCSB4WDTRDFTMFW!! TL;DR
    mostly stock, grocery gettin' Prius
    Went from stock 265 (TRD offroad) rugged terrains to 285 Tracs load E and my MPG went down by 1-2 max.
     
  5. Jul 24, 2015 at 9:21 AM
    #5
    709GADE

    709GADE [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 17, 2009
    Member:
    #26073
    Messages:
    315
    Gender:
    Male
    Vehicle:
    '09 Toyota Tacoma 4X4 SR5 DC LB - Pyrite Mica
    Toyota aluminium side steps, Toyota door sill protectors Extang trifecta tonneau cover, U-Haul Class 3 hitch, Black Weathertech's, Front mudflaps trimmed 4", OEM Fog Lights, WeatherTech Bug Deflector, 13" Stubby antenna, TRD Skid Plate, ScanGaugeII, Carriage Works Billet Grille, Plasti Dipped overhead temp/compass console, LT265/75/16 Duratrac's LR C
  6. Jul 24, 2015 at 9:22 AM
    #6
    TacomaMike37

    TacomaMike37 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 12, 2013
    Member:
    #110316
    Messages:
    5,086
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Mike
    Vehicle:
    13' DCLB MGM
    Those mofo's are heavy. You will pay at the pump if you take the E's. Overkill for our truck imho.
     
  7. Jul 24, 2015 at 9:33 AM
    #7
    DriverSound

    DriverSound Señor Member

    Joined:
    Mar 29, 2009
    Member:
    #15329
    Messages:
    5,851
    Gender:
    Male
    Oregon
    Vehicle:
    2015 DCSB OR 4x4
    Too few to list.
    Totally different from my experience. With 285/70R17 Load D being 54lbs, my average mpg was anywhere between 14-16 about 60/40 driving. Best I can get on the highway was 20 according to my ultragauge and that is going 60 mph.
     
  8. Jul 24, 2015 at 11:17 AM
    #8
    steelhd

    steelhd Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 15, 2013
    Member:
    #118650
    Messages:
    3,505
    Gender:
    Male
    Eastern WA
    Vehicle:
    2011 DCSB TRD OR
    The answer is yes, you will see a decrease in mileage. How much I don't know. Heavier tires impact acceleration, braking, and mileage. Because the tires rotate (rotational inertia), the impact on braking, acceleration, and mileage for six additional pounds additional per tire is something like 12 or 18 lbs per corner. Smarter people than me will need to do the actual math.
     
  9. Jul 24, 2015 at 12:59 PM
    #9
    crashnburn80

    crashnburn80 Vehicle Design Engineer

    Joined:
    Jun 6, 2015
    Member:
    #156893
    Messages:
    14,751
    Gender:
    Male
    Kirkland, WA
    Vehicle:
    2003 DCSB TRD OR
    Right, though I believe the rule of thumb is rotational mass it equivalent to multiplying weight by 4, so 24lbs per corner. Heavy tires also affect suspension performance due to greater unsprung weight (though you won't notice in a truck).

    OP: You made the right educated tire choice by choosing C-load. Our trucks are to light to justify an E-load tire. The tire shop messed up and is trying to unload what they ordered instead of what you wanted. I would tell them no, I ordered C-load for a reason, don't settle. You should not be charged for their mistake.
     
    Biscuits likes this.
  10. Jul 24, 2015 at 1:27 PM
    #10
    Dilleytech

    Dilleytech Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 13, 2014
    Member:
    #133824
    Messages:
    258
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Jakob
    White salmon, Washington
    Vehicle:
    07 AC SR5 4x4
    Front ARB bumper, LR UCA's, OME 885/90021 struts, Ome shocks rear, general springs HD leaf pack.
    I do wish the ko2's came in load c. I have ran d's for my last 4 sets love the ko and ko2 just wish I could shed a few more pounds for the pump
     
  11. Jul 24, 2015 at 1:28 PM
    #11
    Taco me elmo

    Taco me elmo Here, Eat some paint. Drink some Bleach.

    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2010
    Member:
    #43412
    Messages:
    4,551
    First Name:
    Tophat bobcat
    North of South, East of West
    Vehicle:
    Slow polished TuRD
    Anti theft 5-Speed
    I have KO2 in C rated at discount tire in a 265/70/17 flavor waiting for me.

    What size are you wanting to run?
     
  12. Jul 24, 2015 at 1:31 PM
    #12
    Taco me elmo

    Taco me elmo Here, Eat some paint. Drink some Bleach.

    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2010
    Member:
    #43412
    Messages:
    4,551
    First Name:
    Tophat bobcat
    North of South, East of West
    Vehicle:
    Slow polished TuRD
    Anti theft 5-Speed
  13. Jul 24, 2015 at 1:34 PM
    #13
    Dilleytech

    Dilleytech Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 13, 2014
    Member:
    #133824
    Messages:
    258
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Jakob
    White salmon, Washington
    Vehicle:
    07 AC SR5 4x4
    Front ARB bumper, LR UCA's, OME 885/90021 struts, Ome shocks rear, general springs HD leaf pack.
    Wait they make them in c? I was told on my first set they only come In d but that was ko's. It's to late now I got a fresh set of 235/85r16 ko2's on now..
     
  14. Jul 24, 2015 at 1:35 PM
    #14
    Taco me elmo

    Taco me elmo Here, Eat some paint. Drink some Bleach.

    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2010
    Member:
    #43412
    Messages:
    4,551
    First Name:
    Tophat bobcat
    North of South, East of West
    Vehicle:
    Slow polished TuRD
    Anti theft 5-Speed
    Only a few select sizes come with C as an option.
     
  15. Jul 24, 2015 at 1:38 PM
    #15
    Taco me elmo

    Taco me elmo Here, Eat some paint. Drink some Bleach.

    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2010
    Member:
    #43412
    Messages:
    4,551
    First Name:
    Tophat bobcat
    North of South, East of West
    Vehicle:
    Slow polished TuRD
    Anti theft 5-Speed
    With that pizza cutter odd size I only show E rated tires from companies as an option.
     
  16. Jul 24, 2015 at 1:41 PM
    #16
    Dilleytech

    Dilleytech Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 13, 2014
    Member:
    #133824
    Messages:
    258
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Jakob
    White salmon, Washington
    Vehicle:
    07 AC SR5 4x4
    Front ARB bumper, LR UCA's, OME 885/90021 struts, Ome shocks rear, general springs HD leaf pack.
    Yes as stated above a few sizes are c just none that I would want. Love the new ko2 look by the way.
     
  17. Jul 24, 2015 at 1:51 PM
    #17
    Pigpen

    Pigpen My truck is never clean

    Joined:
    Mar 6, 2012
    Member:
    #74319
    Messages:
    9,169
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Dan
    Northwest Montana
    Vehicle:
    2012 AC Manual 4.0 4x4 Base Model
    Access cab with child seat in the back, yellow wire mod, diff breather relocated to tail light, engine block heater, Leer topper with Yakima tracks and rack, Yakima rack on cab, Ride Rite air bags with Daystar cradles, CBI hidden front hitch, wired for winch front and rear Warn quick connect, Warn x8000i on external carrier, sway bar delete, trailer plug relocated to under bumper, Pelfreybilt IFS and Mid skids, BAMF Tcase skid, ECGS front diff bushing, ARB CKMA12 compressor, 255/85/16 Backcountry MT 3 load E tires on stock steel rims, Toyo M55 tires (same size) on another set of stock steelies, Up2NoGood heated mirror kit, Husky X-act Contour front floor liners, Northstar AGM 24F battery under the hood, Northstar 27F in the cab, Redarc 25 amp DC to DC charger, Pelfreybilt bolt on sliders with kickout and top plates, TRD Pro headlights, Depo smoked tail lights, Energy suspension body mount bushing kit, OME Dakar leaf packs with AAL, OME rear shocks, OME 90021 front shocks with 885 coils, SPC LR UCAs, Up2NoGood 2wd low range mod, 4 Wheel Campers Grandby slide in camper, 4xinnovations high clearance rear bumper, Uniclutch 800 lb/ft clutch
    Take the load E tires. You won't see a noticeable difference. I gained MPG when I went to 255 (33") load E
     
  18. Jul 24, 2015 at 1:54 PM
    #18
    Taco me elmo

    Taco me elmo Here, Eat some paint. Drink some Bleach.

    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2010
    Member:
    #43412
    Messages:
    4,551
    First Name:
    Tophat bobcat
    North of South, East of West
    Vehicle:
    Slow polished TuRD
    Anti theft 5-Speed
    So a stiffer, heavier tire that will indeed negatively impact the MPG and ride quality is no noticeable difference?
    You have a very misinformed statement..
     
  19. Jul 24, 2015 at 1:58 PM
    #19
    Pigpen

    Pigpen My truck is never clean

    Joined:
    Mar 6, 2012
    Member:
    #74319
    Messages:
    9,169
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Dan
    Northwest Montana
    Vehicle:
    2012 AC Manual 4.0 4x4 Base Model
    Access cab with child seat in the back, yellow wire mod, diff breather relocated to tail light, engine block heater, Leer topper with Yakima tracks and rack, Yakima rack on cab, Ride Rite air bags with Daystar cradles, CBI hidden front hitch, wired for winch front and rear Warn quick connect, Warn x8000i on external carrier, sway bar delete, trailer plug relocated to under bumper, Pelfreybilt IFS and Mid skids, BAMF Tcase skid, ECGS front diff bushing, ARB CKMA12 compressor, 255/85/16 Backcountry MT 3 load E tires on stock steel rims, Toyo M55 tires (same size) on another set of stock steelies, Up2NoGood heated mirror kit, Husky X-act Contour front floor liners, Northstar AGM 24F battery under the hood, Northstar 27F in the cab, Redarc 25 amp DC to DC charger, Pelfreybilt bolt on sliders with kickout and top plates, TRD Pro headlights, Depo smoked tail lights, Energy suspension body mount bushing kit, OME Dakar leaf packs with AAL, OME rear shocks, OME 90021 front shocks with 885 coils, SPC LR UCAs, Up2NoGood 2wd low range mod, 4 Wheel Campers Grandby slide in camper, 4xinnovations high clearance rear bumper, Uniclutch 800 lb/ft clutch
    Rotational inertia works in favor of mpg while rolling. A stiffer tire has less rolling resistance. These are good on road (mpg) characteristics. Read the rest of my above statement. I gained about 1.5 average MPG.
     
  20. Jul 24, 2015 at 1:59 PM
    #20
    Dilleytech

    Dilleytech Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 13, 2014
    Member:
    #133824
    Messages:
    258
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Jakob
    White salmon, Washington
    Vehicle:
    07 AC SR5 4x4
    Front ARB bumper, LR UCA's, OME 885/90021 struts, Ome shocks rear, general springs HD leaf pack.
    Always boggled the mind how 1 out of 10 people would claim there bigger heavier tire HELPED there has mileage. I lost about 2 mpg just going from 245 to 265/75r16
     

Products Discussed in

To Top