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Load Range E instead of C?

Discussion in 'Wheels & Tires' started by 709GADE, Jul 24, 2015.

  1. Jul 24, 2015 at 4:02 PM
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    X2 ^ I also want to get the KO2 but they don't make the C in a 265 / 70 16. Danm! I hope that Goodrich will offer them soon .
     
  2. Jul 24, 2015 at 4:28 PM
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    I wanted the Duratrac's in C but they are on back order until at least December, the shop will sell me the E's now for the same price $192 per tire with the rebate, so they didn't mess up and are not trying to offload. I just weighed my studded winter tires on Toyota base steelies and they are about 64lbs. Is there really a significant difference in mpg drop from C to E range?
     
  3. Jul 24, 2015 at 4:36 PM
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    Duractracs in 275/75R16's in C's are back ordered. I was lucky to get mine from discount tire. They had 6 in the warehouse and had to come from neighboring state and took 3 days to get them in.

    No one really knows how much of a decrease in mpg's E's would be from C's. I guess minimum of at least 1mpg but the ride will suffer as well as our trucks are not heavy enough for E's.
     
  4. Jul 24, 2015 at 6:19 PM
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    Exactly. Protecting the sidewalls against rocks and roots is the only real justification for 10 plys on our trucks. Even then its a trade off since the Tacos aren't heavy enough to elongate a 10 ply tire enough to take full advantage of air down without beadlock rims. Pretty much the same dilemma Jeep guys have.
     
  5. Jul 24, 2015 at 8:54 PM
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    I noticed my skinny 235's ko2's flex more then then my 265's ko's did so maybe for pizza cutters atleast the tacoma is heavy enough for them.
     
  6. Jul 24, 2015 at 8:58 PM
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    I would never run that skinny of a tire..

    Thats like what a suzuki samurai should run.
     
  7. Jul 24, 2015 at 9:30 PM
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    If you do more highway than city driving, that would make sense. Once a tire starts rolling, the increased rotating mass isn't as noticeable. The larger tire diameter effectively makes the gearing taller, so the engine runs at a lower rpm for any given road speed.

    Expect 1 mpg drop in the city and no difference on the highway. There are other considerations:

    • Ride with the load range E tires will be harsher due to the stiffer sidewalls. Standards vary from person to person.
    • Duratracs have a reputation of being susceptible to sidewall damage off-road. If you plan to wheel in sharp rocks, load range Es may be more durable.
    • Load range E tires need to be inflated up to ~70 psi. Make sure your tire pump can go that high.

    Did you buy your tires from a Goodyear Tire and Auto Center? In my recent experience, the Goodyear-branded shops have better sourcing.
     
  8. Jul 24, 2015 at 9:36 PM
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    Uhhh, wut?
     
  9. Jul 24, 2015 at 9:46 PM
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    yeah thats pretty comical
     
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    No. Tires should be inflated per vehicle spec, usually located on the inside of the driver door jam. Or you can use the chalk test if you are running a notably different size from stock.

    E-loads have higher psi capacity because they are designed to carry a 1 ton loaded full size pickup, far beyond the capacity of the Tacoma. That does not mean they should be inflated to that capacity.
     
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    shhh let him ride around with 70+ psi tires.. like flintstones rock wheels....
     
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  12. Jul 24, 2015 at 9:54 PM
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    Uh, no. The doorjam pressure is intended for the tires that came with the truck. If you change to different tires, those figures go out the window. Toyota had to issue silly recalls for some trucks that had upgraded tires installed at port but didn't get updated doorjam labels.

    The chalk test will give you a ballpark figure for getting even treadwear. However the tire may be underinflated for the sidewalls.

    I'm not advocating inflating to max pressure. Load range E for OP's Duratrac size is rated for 80 psi.
     
  13. Jul 24, 2015 at 9:56 PM
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  14. Jul 24, 2015 at 10:01 PM
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    Not sure where you got your info .. but... WOW are you wrong... the door sticker is for the trucks weight................... not the tire................ if you add weight you add psi I run 33 because im heavier than stock..

    The 70 or 80 psi is a MAX psi for towing or hauling.

    For fucks sake man get your facts together....
     
  15. Jul 24, 2015 at 10:04 PM
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    40 is perfect on my load E tires
     
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    ive run 33-37 with great results on the old E rated stuff ive run.. 33 is best for the C i use now.
     
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    Note I said for near stock size, I was also assuming near stock weight. I should have qualified that better. You are right that if you have added heavy accessories that psi will not be accurate and should be increased accordingly to compensate. While you run 33, that is nowhere near the 70 mentioned earlier.
     
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    Maybe cuz you think fat tires look cool but skinny tires work Sooo much better. I think proper tires look good. Wide tires look a bit stupid to myself and some others that like a great gripping tire. ;)
     
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    I dont care about looks, I want grip. My 265 will have much more stability and grip especially offroading than a 235.

    More flotation the better.. A tall skinny tire would sink and dig much easier in the terrain I offroad in.
     
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    My car came with 215/50/17.. too skinny to be fun.
    I upgraded to 235/45/17 and whoooooo weeeeee does it stick. :thumbsup:
    0 mpg loss too...:cookiemonster:
     

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