Lock doors while via fob or door handle while engine running?

Unless the battery dies.

 

Toyota has not changed this behaviour, it is not something new.

Every Toyota I have owned with key less entry in the last few decades was like this.

 

No way. 09 Camry and 07 RX350, both can be locked via the FOB (if the door is shut) and via the interior lock button while the vehicle is running.

 

So can the 2015 Chevy Colorado.

 

OK.

I said every Toyota I have owned.... which has been many.

 

and be advised, the fob key is not designed for regular use. it will snap off.

 

Doesn't surprise me. I used it for the first time yesterday and it feels pretty cheapo.

 

I will admit I have not thoroughly read EVERY post in this thread.

Why can't you just do what I do when I have someone in the vehicle and want to keep it running while I exit the vehicle.

1. I leave keys in ignition and vehicle running
2. I ask friend/relative/ to manually lock the vehicle with the power switch on the door when I exit the vehicle
3. I exit the vehicle and shut the door
4. When I come back to the vehicle the person in the vehicle recognizes the me and unlocks the door

I'm assuming your wife can do this (my wife is only 5'2") or are we talking about something else here.....

 

He is discussing something else. There is no key to leave in the ignition because it is a push-button start.

 

So then leave the fob with the wife in the vehicle and she unlocks the door from the inside using the door controls when you come back?

 

Makes sense to me.

 

Don't get me wrong, I enjoy comfort and convenience as much as the next guy, but man, we are spoiled!

In high school, I got around primarily via my friend's 1960 something Plymouth Valiant. We used to have to hit the engine with a hammer to start it when it was cold. The heater never worked, it had no air conditioning, and the tree shift failed regularly, but it got us where we needed to go. Back then, I would have killed for a car even half as good as that one.

In the Army, the heaters failed on an almost scheduled basis and we replaced glow plugs anytime the temp fell below 50. In order to start the diesel fired heater, I had to use both hands to hold two different switches for about five minutes and prayed that it would start. I got frozen to the ground trying to remove rocks from the suspension with a screwdriver.

My dad drove a Ford in which we watched with horror as the truck slowed down and a tire/axle combo passed us on the road.

My step-father drove a crazy old truck that sprayed oil onto the passenger floor.

Now, I sit on my couch, my leather desk chair, or my heated truck seat and bemoan the fact that I have to hit the start button again!

If you don't admit that we're spoiled, you need a tough time or two.

 

One of the primary draws of push button start and 'smart keys' is never having to remove the fob from your pocket to start or unlock the vehicle.. kind of defeats that purpose. In addition, the complaint isn't solely about when someone else is in the vehicle, it's also about when I want to start it to warm up in the morning. In that scenario, short of physically locking the cylinder with the key from the outside (or doing what another poster suggested and rolling down the window, exiting, shut the door, hit the lock button from outside, and then use the one-touch up feature of the window to roll it back up..) there's no way to do this.

Oh, for sure I agree with you. Definitely a first world problem, but an inconvenience (and design flaw, IMO) nonetheless. The convenience of pushbutton start and smart key technology is diminished because of these design choices.

 

After reading the replies on this as I have a concern on this topic, it seems silly. So I am a Volunteer fire fighter and respond with my truck at times. I have my lights wired in to the ignition, but when on scene i prefer to keep lights running, but when I pull up to the station I enjoy them shutting off when I turn the truck off. Keeping my truck running on scene is essential so I would like to thank everyone here for doing the hard work for me. Locking the truck with a key is not a bad idea and at least I can secure my truck. it would be easier to lock with a FOB, however as long as it can be secured that is what matters.

 

I have a lot of issues with this topic. The weather has been very cold lately -25C and I want to go out and start the truck to defrost the windows so I can see. If I start the truck and keep the key fob on me I think I should be able to lock the truck while running either by handle or by fob. I've come to realize the only way to do that is to manually take the key and lock the door however its pretty difficult to do with winter gloves on.

So if I can't get around this then I could just leave the truck unlocked while running, if I have the key fob nobody should be able to take my truck. I experimented by starting my truck and leaving the key in the house and going out and driving off. It allowed me to put it in drive and drive off down the street. How the heck has this driving the vehicle off without the key been overlooked?

I know I could just go and get a remote starter to solve my problem but money is tiiiiight lol.

 

So we for sure can not leave our trucks running and lock the doors by either hitting the manual lock or lock on the key fob when we get out?? Obviously taking key fob with us.

If I try this, vehicle will stay unlocked?

Makes no sense if true, what if cold day or if hot day and dog in truck and want to leave a.c. on for him?

I'm not leaving my truck unlocked ever in today's world and especially with pet in it or with it running. And no... I wouldn't leave dog in car longer than maybe running in convenience store to get something. Don't call peta on me.

 

It would be nice to be able to let it run while locked, but...

In many municipalities in the area, it’s illegal to leave your car running while you are not in attendance.
It cuts down on car theft and additional work for the police. They keep busy enough around here.

Getting aftermarket remote start is the way to go.

I don’t know what the law is in this area regarding leaving your vehicle running using remote start which was a factory item in my last 2016 model truck. Maybe legal. Maybe not. I never looked into it.
A task for tomorrow.

It had adjustable timer settings for remote start.
In remote start mode it stayed locked until you approached and opened the door.
When you entered with the key fob in your possession, the instrument panel remained dark and off with HVAC, heated and cooled seats on last used settings or automatic mode, and the vehicle could not shift into drive or reverse until you first pushed the start button to light up the dash.

My next door neighbor had their car stolen last winter while it was running and unattended first thing in the morning. There was snow and ice on the ground which is rare here. Thieves were probably driving around looking for a car to steal at that time of the day.

Could someone with aftermarket remote start tell us how it functions? Could you break into the car and drive off?

 

Just read an article reported by local news.
It’s illegal to leave vehicle running while unattended in all of Oregon. You must be in attendance outside of your vehicle.

The article mentioned that it could be a matter of interpretation regarding attendance.
If you’re in your house while the vehicle is in your driveway on your property, is that in attendance?

 

EPA site lists anti-idling laws for all states. 102 page document.
It appears illegal in most states.

Oh well.

 

Im a copper here in Canada and warm up car thefts happen all the time. That is why I am so shocked that we're not able to lock up our tacos more efficiently.

At least have the vehicle set up so you can't drive off with the truck unless you have the fob on you. I feel like "smart start" vehicles shouldn't be able to go anywhere without the fob inside the vehicles. I do believe some turn off when the brake is pushed without the fob in the vehicle. A buddy of mine said that happens to his 4Runner but who knows.

Starting vehicles early to warm up is common practice up here other wise you're either
a) driving around with frosted up windows trying to see which is a $110 ticket for window obstructed OR
b) waiting inside your truck like an idiot in the cold while it takes 10-15 minutes to defrost the windows.