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Lockers?

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by mh.meier, Mar 9, 2012.

  1. Mar 9, 2012 at 9:38 AM
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    Hey guys, I know there are a bunh of posts with certain info about lockers in them. I have Google searched and looked on here and cant find too much in one spot. I have an SR5 4X4 and I would like to get a locker since it doesnt currently have anything in that department. What I would like to know is what locker I should get, the pros and cons and how hard it is too install. I like the ARB Air locker but its freakin pricey. Any info would be great. Thanks a lot guys.
     
  2. Mar 9, 2012 at 10:49 AM
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    And also, is ARB the only one you can turn off and on?
     
  3. Mar 9, 2012 at 11:06 AM
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    Let me start with the disclaimer; I'm no expert! However I did order an ARB rear locker for my 2010 Sport from the recent TW group buy. I do believe that the only switchable locker available for your truck is the ARB, others are automatic lockers. You will hear from guys who have the auto lockers and love them and I certainly can't speak for or against them but I wanted switch ability. Your higher cost is in part due to the need for an air compressor and plumbing.

    Mine is still in transit, so as far as ease of installation, the verdict is still out. In talking to Brandon from Bytor Trucks, he makes it sound as if it's fairly straight forward with an average level of mechanical ability, this is however without the installation of an aftermarket gear job. He says that's a bit more complicated. I guess it comes down to your knowledge and exposure to this type of rear end work. I've never done this but I believe it's within my ability. Check out the group buy thread and poke some of the guys who are going to be installing this stuff, you’ll get plenty of help. Good luck.
     
  4. Mar 9, 2012 at 1:19 PM
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    I understand that the Toyota e-locker takes some modification to the diff housing to get it installed unless you have a Tacoma Off Road, and never heard of ox-locker went and googled them but it looks like they aren't made for Toyota from what I can tell. Like Turd said, plenty of info here and other Toyota forums.
     
  5. Mar 9, 2012 at 10:14 PM
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    I need a selectable I gues since its my DD, but I am only looking for a rear right now, I dont have the funds for both. I do have enough for the ARB but I was trying not to get that expensive. I have driven a Taco with a locker and also one with LSD and I like the locker except when you cant turn it off. It definitely helped a lot. I know it will too with my DCLB ince it is already a bitch to take up certain things. I appreciate all your guys' help with everything. I dont know if it would be benificial to just regear or get a locker or both. I can only find info on certain applications and I would just like to know whts the best way to help my set up.
     
  6. Mar 9, 2012 at 10:28 PM
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    Thanks man, I really like the ARB and I have the funds but I need other parts too. I still need sliders and skids and the ARB will soak up the funds. I wish the was a bigger market for selectable lockers, but then again, I wont go cheap with my weapons, I shouldnt with my truck either.
     
  7. Mar 9, 2012 at 10:59 PM
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    I have ARBs at both ends and I regeared. This is not a place to cut corners because the cost of going back and redoing it is way too great.
     
  8. Mar 10, 2012 at 6:30 AM
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    Here's a question I can't remember if I ever asked but I'm asking it now...

    Let's say you have a TRD Sport with a 2" lift and you're considering getting a locker but you can only afford EITHER the front or the rear. Which would you get?
     
  9. Mar 10, 2012 at 8:52 AM
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    If you want a locker and want to do it right for a daily driver, as mentioned the ARB will be the easist way to go, and probably the best way to go. Expensive, but so is anything worth a shit...
    Other then that, going thru the whole rear end swap, electronic deal with a stock e-locker rear end would end up "factory" if done right, but a lot more time and money. Also, you could argue that a non locker rear end equipped with a ARB locker is a stronger rear end, and a better set up, especially if you upgrade the air compressor option for on board air needs. :cool:
     
  10. Mar 10, 2012 at 9:11 AM
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    Why? What's the justification? I'm curious what the reasoning is. I've been thinking about it lately.
     
  11. Mar 10, 2012 at 11:20 AM
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    Thanks a lot PSJ. I think I am going to go ARB. Would I be able to install it? It's already so expensive I would gate to pay a shit ton for labor. I do like the ability to have on board air needs too though.
     
  12. Mar 10, 2012 at 11:47 AM
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    I've considered the ARB simply because it would give me a good excuse to do an onboard air system. That way when I leave the trail I can fill up the tires immediately and don't ahve to drive a ways.
     
  13. Mar 10, 2012 at 2:03 PM
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    It's because the locker adversely affects steering. There are circumstances where using it causes more trouble than not. A rear locker is more often a benefit. A front locker can cause complete lose of control on the street when driving in ice. With an open diff, even if one wheel spins the other is not, so the truck retains some grip. If the locker causes both wheels to break traction, the front of the vehicle is completely loose. No directional control. It can happen at the back end too, but with less severe results.

    IMO, the need for a selectable rear locker can be debated. Where a front locker is concerned, I would not use anything but a fully selectable unit like an ARB. My front ARB gets damn little use. I've been using the double ARBs in vehicles for about 15 years. The ability to select has resulted in me using them less and less.

    There are circumstances where a front locker would be a better choice over a rear. It gives you the same benefits that FWD offers over RWD. Generally though, the rear locker is a better first choice for all around use.
     
  14. Mar 10, 2012 at 2:12 PM
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    Will a locker install in the LS rear, or is a new carrier needed. If so, my choice is to eventually go selectable in the front. I'm happy with the LS in the rear, but I haven't wheeled the Toy alot.

    I did have lockers front and rear in a 1-ton Blazer, and it is definitely terrifiing on snowy/icy roads. A rear locker can be just as scarey on the slippery roads too. Even when the front is unlocked, steering is a bitch on slippery surfaces, the locker just doesn't want to differentiate.

    As far as steering goes, selectability up front is a must unless all you do is race in the mud!
     
  15. Jun 10, 2012 at 8:28 AM
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    It's been a few months so any update yet b/c I'm in the same boat...
     
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