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Long Island Man Arrested For Defending Home With AK-47

Discussion in 'Guns & Hunting' started by Packman73, Sep 7, 2010.

  1. Sep 7, 2010 at 7:51 PM
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    Long Island Man Arrested For Defending Home With AK-47 « CBS New York- News, Sports, Weather, Traffic and the Best of NY

    He was arrested for protecting his property and family.

    But it’s how the Long Island man did it that police say crossed the line.

    He got a high powered AK-47 and pulled the trigger and he ended up in jail, reports CBS 2’s Pablo Guzman.

    George Grier said he had to use his rifle on Sunday night to stop what he thought was going to be an invasion of his Uniondale home by a gang he thought might have been the vicious “MS-13.” He said the whole deal happened as he was about to drive his cousin home.

    “I went around and went into the house, ran upstairs and told my wife to call the police. I get the gun and I go outside and I come into the doorway and now, by this time, they are in the driveway, back here near the house. I tell them, you know, ‘Can you please leave?’ Grier said.

    Grier said the five men dared him to use the gun; and that their shouts brought another larger group of gang members in front of his house.

    “He starts threatening my family, my life. ‘Oh you’re dead. I’m gonna kill your family and your babies. You’re dead.’ So when he says that, 20 others guys come rushing around the corner. And so I fired four warning shots into the grass,” Grier said.

    Grier was later arrested. John Lewis is Grier’s attorney.

    “What he’s initially charged with – A D felony reckless endangerment — requires a depraved indifference to human life, creating a risk that someone’s going to die. Shooting into a lawn doesn’t create a risk of anybody dying,” Lewis said.

    Grier said he knew Nassau County Police employ the hi-tech “ShotSpotter” technology in his area and that the shooting would bring police in minutes. Cops told Guzman he was very cooperative.

    Grier also said he was afraid the gang outside his house was the dreaded MS-13. And Nassau County Police Lt. Andrew Mulraine, head of the gang unit, said MS-13 has 2,000 members in the county.

    “They’re probably the most organized. They almost have a military hierarchy within the gang, so they are the most organized gang we encounter on a daily basis,” Mulraine said.

    You may think a person has the right to defend their home. But the law says you can only use physical force to deter physical force. Grier said he never saw anyone pull out a gun, so a court would have to decide on firing the gun.

    Police determined Grier had the gun legally. He has no criminal record. And so he was not charged for the weapon.

    That ShotSpotter technology pinpoints where a gun has been fired within 35 feet. Police said it also detected two other shootings in nearby Roosevelt that night.
     
  2. Sep 8, 2010 at 6:23 AM
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    About the most ridiculous left wing liberal bullshit arrest I've ever heard of. The guy's going to die, so they want to bust him for preventing it, after they've proven they can't get there in time to save him. We're going to have to start defending ourselves against the politicians and lawmakers, since the line between them and violent criminals is disappearing rapidly.
     
  3. Sep 8, 2010 at 6:32 AM
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    Is anyone really surprised by this?? Too bad it didnt happen in texas. He wouldve got a pat on the back for it. This is what this country has come to... May GOD help us all.
     
  4. Sep 8, 2010 at 6:41 AM
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    I am livid! This is insanity! People were on his property making threats to him and his family, yet he is the one who gets arrested for discharging his legally owned gun into the lawn? BS!
     
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    That's terrible. If there's roughly 25-30 men outside your house theretening violence and death to you and your family what are you supposed to do :notsure: especially in an area know to have so many gang members? I know you really can't fire warning shots, but good lord, sounds like opportunity, capability, and intent to me
     
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    What is a warning shot?
    Seems like a waste of ammo you will need.
     
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    Warning shots (atleast in nautical naval lore) determine hostile intent. If these guys woulda still rushed afterwards, fair game

    And say a 20rd mag minus 4 shots you would still take out a majority of the crowd and it would have a mental edginess to it
     
  10. Sep 8, 2010 at 7:08 AM
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    X2. The "Warning shot" is the first shot into the attacker. That "warnes" his buddies that they are next.
     
  11. Sep 8, 2010 at 7:09 AM
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    IMO a warning shot should be in the form of a head-shot to one of the potential intruders. Shooting into the ground shows you are afraid to take someone's life.
     
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    The awful part is now that the gang knows he's in jail and/or had his AK confiscated, he's a sitting duck because they're definitely going to be back
     
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    Granted, they could just be standing there trying to make you do somehting dumb like go to jail for murder. I'd rather make damn well and sure these idiots were going to do something dumb. And if you're already at the tactical ready (which you should be; gun up just below eye level) your reaction time is only dependent on how quick you can flip the safety off and get you finger on the trigger assuming safe and finger straight and along the receiver
     
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    For the love of all that is holy! Why oh why this thing is happening.

    It is sad definitely sad that the law on this instance had favored the Badguys and the good guy went to jail & is now facing an f-ing litigation. This happened because of what? The liberal msm said that the good guy has a high-powered AK 47. An assault rifle made only for the battlefields and designed to kill in huge amount. Have some heat seeking baby killer/cop killer round to go with it. Oh boy!
     
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    yea this sucks ...but he is lucky he did not have the 20rd mag in the gun
    because here in ny 10 rds is all your allowed.....
    this is bullshit...but all the gang members have guns.....where this took place is a crime ridden area....the home owner got the shaft in this one....
    ny sucks
     
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