Long Life Oil Filters??

There is no government law or regulation on oil and air filters, a Co. that makes an oil filter can make it any way they choose
No offence to anybody but none of you guys know what is a good or bad oil filter, the only creditable information I have on oil filters are the 2005 SAE Tests, but thats 6 years ago and things have changed, if you guys are reading the information from "Bob The Oil Guy" then you are totally lost in space

 

Because you have to be a member of the SAE Website to axcess their information, no longer a member.
I apploligize if I got carried away or was rude talking about synthetic oil and filters, I was taught the basics long ago before synthetic oil became popular, I was using synthetic oil in the past when nobody else was using it.
I have got in trouble before when I make suggestions, so I am very carefull not to name a brand name oil and filter, cause it might insult some people.
All I would like to suggest is look on the box of the oil filter you want to buy and look at the micron rating and if there is no micron rating listed I would suggest either they don't want you to know or they are hiding something.
Just because you spend $15-$20 on a popular name brand oil filter doesn't mean thats the best, if I named a brand that costs $3.99 thats a better filter you guys would throw me outta this forum.
Its your truck, you have the right to use the filter you want and I respect that.
Thank You

sorry I got carried away on this subject

 

Hi,
I am the tech manager at Fram. The technology behind the filter you are asking about is this- It has a stainless steel screen base media structure, It is wrapped with two layers of full synthetic glass filter media captured by steel end caps. It has full synthetic rubber valves on the antidrain back and nylon on the bypass valve. It captures and holds 4x's as much dirt in grams as a standard filter. it filters all particles at 98% single pass effiency in particle sizes between 10-20 microns, that is the size that is harmfull to engine bearings. It is the only filter in the market that has a written gaurentee for 10k oil changes when used with quality full synthetic oil. Mobil 1 and Amsoil default by saying "follow the manufacturers recommended change intervals". Now, that said, Toyota is the ONLY manufacturer that has not gone to extended oil change intervals, they have remained at 5k miles. All other car makers have gone to 7500-10k and even 15k on mercedes and BMW's. It is entirely safe for you to go to 7500 miles if you use Mobil1 oil and the extended guard filter.

 

Sure and thank you for asking-
Extra Guard filters are our least expensive entry level filter. It has a 94% single pass efficiency rating. It has a cellulose and synthetic glass media with a nitrile rubber anti drainback valve. It is recommended for 3-4k oil changes. Much has been made about guys on the net cutting it open and pointing to "paper end caps". The end caps are a engineered fiber just like the media itself. The end cap is not a structural element of the filter at all. It is only there to seal the ends of the media and nothing bonds to the porous media better than a porous end cap. Honda and Subaru use this style of filter as OE equipment, AC Delco does too. in fact, we recently saw a 48$ filter from a 345,000$ Bentley Arnage that had a fiber end cap. It is well proven technology that our competitors like to point at for one reason-they do not like to talk about filtration! Toyota filters now use no end cap at all, just glue to seal the ends of the media.

The Tough guard filter is the next step up. It has a 99% single pass efficiency rating. It also has a silicone antidrainback valve and almost twice the capacity of the Extra Guard. It is recommended for oil changes in the 7500 mile range.

 

Yeah me too too easy on this truck and I hate wrenching. This will be the first vehicle in a long time I do the oil changes on myself. Although I will through the first tow to the dealership to establish myself with the Svc Dept in case I need a benifit of doubt along the way..LOL

 

Can you tell me why Fram has such a bad name in many car and motorcycle forums ?
http://www.google.com/search?q=Why+...&aq=t&client=firefox-a&rlz=1R1GGLL_en___US401

For as long as I purchased cars and bikes and read associated forums I read "Don't get a Fram" What happened along the way to get such a bad rep and what is Fram doing to combat that?

 

I dont know if you realize but at 3000 RPMs there is 80 psi going through this filter. Toyota does not have end caps because media is stiffer then FRAM's paper + something mixture.
If strange that in one post you say that those endcaps are not structual but they only seal. With out them paper media would easily collapse. So its structural to me
Also I would not compare FRAM internals to others. Its true some companies use fiber end caps (VW) but FRAm does not even come close to quality of those. VW filter has true fiber end caps.

 

The reason why I don't use Fram Oil Filters is in the past when I used a Fram , right away the Fram filter leaked oil from the seam!
I was very carefull by cleaning the area with brake cleaner to pinpoint and loacate the leak from the seam.
I went to return the oil filter at one of the major auto parts retailer and told them its leaking from the seam, I either want my money back or a replacement oil filter, instead the manager made fun of me and insulted me by telling me it was leaking from the gasket cause I didn't install it right, and Fram will not reinburse his business for the filter.
They refused to refund me based only on Fram would refuse to refund the auto parts store!
I lost a few dollars, no big deal, but tab it up to a lesson learned, DON"T BUY FRAM FILTERS!

I wasn't the only one with that problem:
http://dodgeforum.com/forum/dodge-cummins-diesel/212021-fram-oil-filter-leaking.html