Long Travel BS Thread

amaes, does it bother you that ur front and rear shocks are different brands? idk if its better to stick to one brand or if its ok

 

No not really. If I could find someone to switch me I'd trade my Kings for Foxs. King parts are harder to find at normal shops and they cost a lot. you can get every Shim made for foxes for $200 but King charges $20+ per stack. King heat treats their shims (Not needed at all. I have been told this but multiple race teams) and they use a weird size shaft. THe only shims that can but used in Kings are SAW because they both have the same size shaft. Other then that King and Foxs are pretty much the same. They have same basic design and both use eibach springs. (Yes King springs are made by eibach). Fox has a little better customer service IMO. King is a pretty small company so you can't complain too much.

For me other then color I don't notice much lol I'm actually going to rebuild my kings here in a few weeks. they could use a rebuild and for sure need new valving.

The only shocks I have seen have lots of issues are FOAs and SAWs. FOA has really good service from what I hear but their product sucks for the most part. Metal shavings in the shocks are a common thing. and the c/o have weird spring threads. And SAW tends to have bad customer service. Also on the 1450 truck that used to race with us (upgraded to a trophy lite) always seemed to have at least one shock leaking.

 

i plan to get fox CO's up front 4wheel parts quoted me 1092 for the pair and he'll waive the taxes too. i got rear piggy backs which i was ok w until i saw lembowski get some non stock replacement fox shocks in the rear for cheaper.

 

http://www.stewartsraceworks.com/our_vehicles.php?truck=ford_raptor sexy

 

I love LT but not a pro when it comes to information. Saw this on youtube and I haven't seen one on a yota yet..is this a crappy front set up?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkyVELcr19k&feature=player_detailpage

 

crappy, no... old school, yes. ibeams are from the early 90s

 

Hi nate! haha

 

Isn't easier to get longer travel and keep it strong?

 

Ahh gotcha. Was just curious. Thanks

 

http://giantmotorsports.com/content/view/25/37/

 

oh yeah, i've melted my fair share of parts welding with them still on the truck. the arms will deffinately be off. while i'm at it, i think i'm going take off both sides to beef up the arms a little (skids on the leading edge of the arms) and add my limit strap mounts

 

I beams are legit. a very tried and true set up, the yeild way more travel than standrad control arm LT kits

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9ADQ-17SD8

http://vimeo.com/25627960

 

that ranger hits those woops so smooth!
the toyota needs some lift spindles, bigger tires, and bigger fiberglass in the front. dont ya think?

 

so what's the disadvantage to them that keeps the big name TTs from using them?

only two things i could think of are strength (no idea if they're stronger of weaker), and handling (since the camber changes so drastically with the articulation)

 

the clearance on beams is the only big issue with them that i know of

 

this past january i wheelied with a guy who had an older f250 with 4x4 beams. thing was nuts. he had more clearance than us, but that's because he had 37s. on a similar sized tire though, he would have more clearance than a solid axle, but just a little less than us IFS trucks

i'd imagine they are hard to protect without the ability to run a full skid right down the center.

 

well right by the tires they kind of angle down, then straight...


theres less clearance in the middle where it angles.

 

all suspension systems will have about the same clearance where the hub is (with the exception of lift spindles and portals), it's that middle that varies. with all of the different beam trucks i've seen both in person and from pictures, it seems like their clearance greatly varies based on ride height.

is there such a thing as a lift spindle equivelant for beam trucks? i gues it would be an extended steering knuckle?

 

Beams (aka dirty hooker travel) are an old school way of doing things.

The reasons why TTs don't run them are:

They tend to have really bad camber through the travel cycle. Unlike Center mounted a-arms like used on TTs
Another thing is that you leave all of your steering exposed upfront.
Also they tend to be a lot heavier then what a-arms are

 

didnt think of the steering. dam good point!