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Long Travel BS Thread

Discussion in 'Long Travel Suspension' started by amaes, Aug 20, 2010.

  1. Jun 30, 2017 at 7:24 AM
    4Running Daily

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    so got solid works and gonna start messing with it but as far as a bed cage and stuff will the program know what cuts and angles from the model and be able to cut it out on one of those gnarly tube cnc machines?
     
  3. Jun 30, 2017 at 7:49 AM
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    Solidworks is just a CAD modeling software, it's up to the designer to know the capabilities of the CNC machines. After the CAD is done you'll usually use a CAM program like FeatureCAM or DelCAM to make the program for the CNC machine. Well at least that's how we do it at my shop. I do the CAD on SW, pass the files to my CNC guy and he'll make the programs with CAM and run the CNC machine. The few times I've done anything with tubes I take note of the dies I have for my bender and then make tube wraps to cut out the notches.
     
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    You can export your part to any file you want after you are done designing it. Most machine shops I'll give them a parasolid and 2d drawing with dimensions. Dxf if it is something like a flat plate I'm having plasma cut.
     
  5. Jun 30, 2017 at 7:53 AM
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    awesome, i work with Revit and architectural engineering software so this stuff is new to me haha
     
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    Its def a different ballpark, but just like revit once you get used to it you can really appreciate it. I learned cad/solid modeling in college, but now do the Revit MEP stuff for work. Its fun, but solid modeling is what I would prefer due to my interests.
     
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  7. Jun 30, 2017 at 7:59 AM
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    SW is pretty user friendly. What I've found useful for tubes is to use Weldments and to create the profiles for the tubes I'm using. The Weldments feature makes notching very easy. However regarding the CNC bending and notching someone once told me SW isn't to friendly with that due to the way the program models the tubes. Solidedge is supposed to be better for than but I have no experience there. We make plastic injection molds so 95% of my experience is designing the molds and checking the designs of the corporate companies to make sure their product can be manufactured with a mold.
     
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    yea i was trying to look to find if SW does the notching good enough to be exported and cut in one of those tube CNC.
     
  9. Jun 30, 2017 at 8:19 AM
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    Couldn't have said it better myself
     
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    This is huge when doing tubes with bends. SW allows you to do unrealistic bends with no warnings. Ie: incorrect tangent lines when going from a curve to a straight and vice versa. So you definitely need to know what is possible in a shop.
     
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    Oh, and first thing you should do is setup your shortcuts/hot keys. Makes developing way easier and faster. It's basically the first thing they teach you when you take the class.

    And if you start using it a lot, get one of these. Having to use SW everyday, this things saves my life!

    Screenshot_2017-06-30-08-25-56-1.jpg
     
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    Cutting off the factory bump stop mount? Seems like that would be a bad idea, I thought properly set up bypasses were supposed to be set up to get minimal use out of a real/dedicated bump stop, but one should still have them for that once-in-a-while-oh-shit-I-misjudged-that-dip/rock/whoop.

    Do the shocks that it calls for have some kind of internal/external rubber bump?
     
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    What kit and mounts did you buy?
     
  14. Jun 30, 2017 at 11:32 AM
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    Do the DK LCA even have a secondary shock lower mount? The TC hoop doesn't require cutting off the bump stop.

    http://www.chaosfab.com/PDF/install/accessories/86600.pdf

    I was told that mixing the brands for secondary shock hoops and LT kits can be a potentially bad idea,not that it cannot be done, but it may require a lot of test fitting and cycling to ensure that both shocks are getting their full stroke utilized without interference with adjacent components. Fucking up the fitting will have one shock "bottoming out"/"topping out" before the other. Getting the hoop from the same company you got the LT kit from will save time and frustration with the fitting as I understand. If you are going to go that route it might just be better to make your own custom hoop.
     
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    What bypasses????
     
  16. Jun 30, 2017 at 12:26 PM
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    You can't call DK and see what they say about the bumps?

    Also I didn't say that you can't mix-n-match, it's just that it may make fitting and getting the shock strokes equal more difficult. It may be quick and easy or it may not be. If you've already ordered everything I would try to make it work.
     
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    I believe they probably didn't tell you that you'll need to run the coilover or bypass shaft bumpstops? I've seen some guys run them that way on Silverados. UTVs run them that way also and our Geiser TT has them in addition to the hydro bump stop.
     
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  18. Jun 30, 2017 at 12:43 PM
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    This. This. This. I was thinking the same thing, maybe DKs shock design utilize an integrated bump on the shocks, whether it be internal or external on the rod. Maybe with rubber/foam bumps on the main+secondary shock you can get away without a dedicated/separate bump.
     
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    Wanting to run bumps over bypasses Is just a silly thing to say. Can you explain why you can't rune a poly bump in the stock location?
     
  20. Jun 30, 2017 at 1:12 PM
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    But why do you need to cut it off is what I'm getting at
     
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