Long Travel BS Thread

How do you know it's no better than your mt kit? Have you taken your truck thru the same whoops section before and after the install and recorded your stop speed? Or does it feel the same as your mt kit when you're cruising the mall parking lot? Serious question. If it hasn't seen the dirt then theirs no way to compare. Lt kits aren't made to improve street driving. They are made to handle abuse. If you aren't abusing it what do you expect to feel different?

 

Take it off road and it should be much better than the mt setup. Like I said, with my front compression adjusters all the way open it's barely a noticeable difference from mt. But adjust them for the dirt and where I would bottom out 100 times and constantly have tire rub, I maybe hit bumps once. Braking bumps and washboards aren't a huge improvement but I don't have secondary bypasses and haven't run aired down yet either so I will have some compromises there for now.

 

Go for the AAL then.

That won't improve your speed bump test. But it'll improve the performance when going through big whoops and bumps at speed WITH correct valve shocks.

You still need to take it through a big section offroad at speed.

 

Yeah.... although I think it would be fun to watch

 

If you waste all your travel on a speed bump what will happen to said suspension in a 3ft whoop. You could set it up very soft for the small bumps but it'll preform like shit in the big stuff. Hit those speed bumps going 70 in on my then compare it to your lt kit

 

If you want "floaty" remove your compression stacks, stiffen up the rebound, drill the bleeds larger, put a lower viscosity oil in, open up compression bypasses all the way, put on some low load range tires, air down to 5psi. There you go, super floaty

 

My rear set up would still clunk slightly over a big speed bump (unless I took it at speed which obviously I wasnt hitting parking lots going 30-40). Also because I drove around unloaded. The more weight in the bed the better it handled but it sounds like you have that part covered. Driving around at speed still felt great and offroad it is worlds and worlds better than anything bolt in for a tacoma.

On another note I forgot I don't have a long travel truck anymore and hit a 1-2 foot drop off on the shoulder of the road with just a bilstein lift with the right side of my truck. Definitely puckered up but got super lucky it handled that drop well somehow.

 

@erok81 Come to Pismo with us next weekend, bro. We can discuss LT and try to dial in your bypasses a little bit. Camping Friday-Sunday (although I might bail and get a hotel Saturday night)

You paid money for a high speed off-road suspension. When you hit a whup section, or fly down a bumpy road at 50+ it rides beautiful. So trying to test out your suspension on road is pretty retarded. That being said, you've got all brand new leafs and coils so until those break in, it's going to be alot stiffer. Give it a thousand miles. Mine is stiff as crap in mall parking lots still, and turns heads constantly, not from how cool it looks, but because people think it's about to break from the noise. Also, this isn't a Cadillac suspension, it is a high speed off-road suspension, so whatever you get out of it for on road ride is how it's gonna be. Don't try to F with your onroad ride because your offroad performance will suffer.

 

I think others are right in the off road element here with your truck @erok81 in that on the road your shocks will barely cycle. As you hit stuff off road your stuff will float as the suspension can actually be cycled and have travel on the shock to absorb it. I notice similar on my 3.5 front and mt rear that it's a little stiff at low speeds, but if I'm off road the truck just floats through stuff when it counts. Me being east coast 30-40 is what I can hit on my limited trails being open. Just saying man, hit stuff off road at speed and see what your shocks feel like before completely giving up on it. I'm sure you will appreciate it more when you are able to feel the ride in it's designed element.

 

So you put lt on your truck so it would perform better in the mall parking lot? This thread is going to shit. Not trying to be a dick but I mean c'mon, seriously? Go bang it off the rev limiter in the dunes and then come in here with legitimate questions. If you want a better mall crawler ride, sell all your shit you just put on, rock some 3" wheel spacers, put some gnar metal Melisha steekers on your doors, and of course a light bar on the roof.

 

Not trying to be a dick?
Try harder.

 

First time on TW? I remember those days. That was pretty tame for TW.

 

Just don't see what all the crying is about. That's what's turns a thread to shit.
Add something constructive, that makes them better.
Have you seen @erok81 build thread? Guy worked his ass off, installed it himself, doesn't seem like a poser to me. But I'm new

 

Pretty sure nobody called him a poser, also pretty sure there's about 2 pages of constructive information for him. Including my own post above where I invited him out to Pismo (since he's semi local) to help tune his shocks. I don't know the guy personally, but using my context clues from what he's posted so far I get the slight feeling he didn't read through all of the LT threads to know what he was getting himself in to. That's great he installed it himself, I applaud him that, but that doesn't make him a whiz at anything lol.
Again @erok81 I invite you out with me and Danny next weekend to Pismo, and hope fence line has some whups this time we can run up and down and tune your shocks. Your low speed anything is going to be stiff and clunky. But the first time you hit about 50-60 through some whups, your ear to ear grin will make the LT buy in well worth it.

 

Custom valving will get your truck handling well. It'll take some experimenting with weight distribution and valving - check out @Anthony250's build thread. He's gone through a lot of iterations of rear setups in it and valving has always made a big difference.

 

He has built a couple of badass street cars. I do think this is his first truck build so not knowing about the trial and error w/ suspension setups probably did throw him for a loop. I think he'd learn a lot from you guys at Pismo.

 

Hey guys any idea whats going on with this TC kit... Its for an acquaintance on FB.

 

Yeah that dude has like 5 people telling him the lower mount spacers are backwards on instagram

Also he has no room to adjust the tie rods in

 

That was my thought right off the bat. Swap the lower shock spacers. No need for middle clearance for a CV

 

He has CV's they just aren't in there right now