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Long Travel BS Thread

Discussion in 'Long Travel Suspension' started by amaes, Aug 20, 2010.

  1. May 16, 2022 at 8:37 PM
    desertjunkie760

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    Did you end up strapping it early due to the 16” bypass? Looks like great work! Bummer that you’ve got a staggered layout on the bypass though.
     
  2. May 16, 2022 at 9:36 PM
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    It's almost 21.5 so i'm just gonna strap it at 21" to be safe. but yeah with the 16" bypass i still have a little over an inch of coil left. but this also allows me to determine just what i want to order from king and wait. probably do a 18x3.5" 5 tube if i like how this goes.
     
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  3. May 17, 2022 at 1:17 PM
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    I could get by on a base model till I ROI'd enough to buy the accessories. clean up would be a pain, but I've got plenty of skin in that game being a machinist for 8 years.
     
  4. May 17, 2022 at 1:31 PM
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    Yeah if you already have the experience I'm sure you could make that back pretty quickly. I bought a fiber laser engraver last year for $3k and just paid it off just doing side jobs for dude at work.
     
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  5. May 17, 2022 at 7:21 PM
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    How come you didn’t notch the frame? Looks like the truss is limiting uptravel
     
  6. May 17, 2022 at 8:28 PM
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    Full bump is the axle tubes on the frame. Will get spaced down 1/4 to 3/8” with bump plates off the axle. And I would have to hack a ton out of the bedsides to go any higher and cut open the bed for the upper link mounts off the axle.
     
  7. May 24, 2022 at 8:11 AM
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    bump cans burned in. Only thing left to weld is upper limit strap mounts…if FedEx ever decides to deliver them…

    and not sure what the mixup was with my axles but Camburg gave me the ok to cut them 3/8 shorter on the inner spline so I can get it driving.
     
  8. May 24, 2022 at 10:40 PM
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    Well even after having to notch out my frame so my shocks don’t hit at articulation


    I still got it on its own weight tonight

    Doesn’t feel like much but it’s nice knowing That my spring rates look like they are gonna work. Now tomorrow just gotta finish brake lines and I can keep moving to get this thing driving by the weekend!
     
  9. May 25, 2022 at 7:05 AM
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    Anybody got any details on this truck Steve at dirt designs did? I’m mainly curious on the fuel cell. 40 gallon that doesn’t hang down to the floor is nice.

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  10. May 25, 2022 at 2:00 PM
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    I never put up that many pics due to the owner in China not wanting them up, but it's been a few years so doubt he cares anymore. The truck was going to an auto show in China and when we met the owner we had 2 months to buy the truck from a dealership, design everything, laser cut, order all parts, build, and had to be on it's way to Long Beach port. Biggest regret was 1week from completion date we were told it NEEDED a cage, interior had to look completely stock, and we were not given an increased timeline. The only option we had was an exo cage that literally everyone hates haha. We did make it completely removable so it could look better but I didn't have enough time to remove for appropriate pics and reinstall and meet the deadline. So I only have exo pics.

    As far as the fuel cell it was a Harmon 40gal CUTP40B. It was not cheap and i don't know if it would fit the normal Tacoma frame rails....maybe?china 1.jpg china 2.jpg china 3.jpg china 6.jpg china 10.jpg 9.jpg 28.jpg 29.jpg1.jpg
     
  11. May 25, 2022 at 2:07 PM
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    Thanks Steve! I thought it was one of those Harmon ones but it was hard to tell dimensions from the picture. No plans on factory frame rails. Gotta say just from hunting for info, did come across a lot of your builds. Awesome stuff! Appreciate the response as I wasn’t sure how to reach you directly.
     
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  12. May 25, 2022 at 2:14 PM
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    I still love his center mount 2nd gen build that’s on here somewhere!
     
  13. May 25, 2022 at 2:24 PM
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    It looks like the hood still raises with the exo in place, that's a nice detail.
     
  14. May 25, 2022 at 3:01 PM
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    Awesome pictures, I remember seeing this truck on the mcneil fiberglass site.

    Question for you (and anyone else who knows), regarding the spindle height/separation distance between UCA/LCA: I would have thought that more vertical separation between the two would mean less change in camber at either end of the suspension cycle, is that correct? If that's the case, why aren't people designing/using taller spindles/more vertical separation when moving to a totally custom setup like that?
     
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  15. May 25, 2022 at 3:45 PM
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    Email is best but figured I'd post pics on here since I actually had a little time today.

    It was a bitch but it did open all the way.

    That is kind of true but when you have to make things fit in a certain area there are more concerns to achieve travel. Scrub radius is very important for trucks to handle hard abuse at high speeds in the desert. The SAI to accomplish that means the spindle is leaned inward a decent amount and that reduces the length of the upper control arm which affects the camber curve and heavily affects travel numbers. Most kits I design don't have much camber change from ride height to full droop (arms are swinging in different paths). And having negative camber at bump works really well when you are railing a berm so the tire isn't postive in relation to the ground. This isn't great when driving through straight line whoops but you have to pick what you want and go that way. I have tried taller spindles in designs and by the time you package everything they usually end up limiting travel a decent amount. While this kit looks like it might have been wide with plenty of room we were limited to 86" overall width (customer parameter) which is the same width as a 3.5" over kit (3.5 over with lift spindles are more like 5.5" over which would be too wide). The customer also wanted minimum 19" travel which could not happen with stock pivots and was willing to pay for this.
     
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    Keeping the scrub radius in a tune with driving type is so underrated. Hardly ever see low scrub on trucks with everyone running crazy offset wheels even in the front
     
  17. May 25, 2022 at 8:35 PM
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    Drooped the rear end out to weld the limit straps in today. than moved my 4wd shifter back 4", moved my shifter back to where i used to have it and added a dumb red handle....lol

     
  19. May 26, 2022 at 7:23 AM
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  20. May 31, 2022 at 10:43 PM
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    Question for everyone with rear bypasses. using standard valving (no free bleeds) should they sound like something is clicking around at the rear of my cage? i'm guessing thats what it is since everything else seems tight but just want to double check and not be ignoring something that could be a problem. thanks
     

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