1. Welcome to Tacoma World!

    You are currently viewing as a guest! To get full-access, you need to register for a FREE account.

    As a registered member, you’ll be able to:
    • Participate in all Tacoma discussion topics
    • Communicate privately with other Tacoma owners from around the world
    • Post your own photos in our Members Gallery
    • Access all special features of the site

Long Travel BS Thread

Discussion in 'Long Travel Suspension' started by amaes, Aug 20, 2010.

  1. Apr 12, 2024 at 9:53 AM
    906taco

    906taco Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 22, 2021
    Member:
    #369289
    Messages:
    2,951
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Cory
    Vehicle:
    08 Taco
    Gonna be extremely low shock mounts to fit a 14” and still have full uptravel with the archive towers. I suggest calling Tim at DMZ to see what he thinks.
     
    Anteupp[QUOTED] and YotaFAB like this.
  2. Apr 12, 2024 at 9:56 AM
    Y2kbaja

    Y2kbaja Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 11, 2013
    Member:
    #106028
    Messages:
    1,225
    Gender:
    Male
    Sacramento
    Vehicle:
    05 Total Chaos Tacoma
    Total Chaos
    My buddies truck has SUA with extended/modified BAMF shock towers and 12" shocks. It works good. We have 14" shocks to put on when we do a bedcage and cut the BAMF off. Do it once, cry once.
     
    YotaFAB and Anteupp like this.
  3. Apr 12, 2024 at 9:59 AM
    YotaFAB

    YotaFAB Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 23, 2020
    Member:
    #320111
    Messages:
    461
    Gender:
    Male
    I want to keep what I can, I'll call Tim at DMZ see what he says.
     
  4. Apr 12, 2024 at 10:03 AM
    906taco

    906taco Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 22, 2021
    Member:
    #369289
    Messages:
    2,951
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Cory
    Vehicle:
    08 Taco
    Make sure you have time, he’s a chatty feller
     
  5. Apr 12, 2024 at 10:04 AM
    Anteupp

    Anteupp Mega Member

    Joined:
    Sep 5, 2011
    Member:
    #62962
    Messages:
    2,226
    Gender:
    Male
    I went from a bedcage with 16"tripple bypasses, to bamf relocation in 2016 LOL was doing a cross country move and needed the bed space for all the shit I wasn't going to let the contracted military movers touch lol

    [​IMG]


    [​IMG]
     
    YotaFAB likes this.
  6. Apr 12, 2024 at 10:11 AM
    Anteupp

    Anteupp Mega Member

    Joined:
    Sep 5, 2011
    Member:
    #62962
    Messages:
    2,226
    Gender:
    Male

    you'll be good with the 14" and SUA, you need to re do your lower mounts, you or the installer NEED to cycle and strap/bump it correctly though and like 906taco and I said your shock mounts will be lower but it wont be that bad. Take a look at how low 4runner shocks are mounted off the axle.

    [​IMG]
     
    Naveronski likes this.
  7. Apr 12, 2024 at 10:15 AM
    WormSquirts

    WormSquirts Armageddon

    Joined:
    Dec 18, 2015
    Member:
    #172583
    Messages:
    2,583
    First Name:
    Braeden
    BC
    This diagram won't work for Sua because the axle bumps out much higher than soa. Just in case anybody got the wrong idea
     
  8. Apr 12, 2024 at 10:15 AM
    Y2kbaja

    Y2kbaja Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 11, 2013
    Member:
    #106028
    Messages:
    1,225
    Gender:
    Male
    Sacramento
    Vehicle:
    05 Total Chaos Tacoma
    Total Chaos
    Similar but we're going to keep the bedcage more to the front of the bed and tie in a roll bar also. Should maximize bed space with everything forward of the wheel wells.
     
    FishingInSand likes this.
  9. Apr 12, 2024 at 10:21 AM
    Anteupp

    Anteupp Mega Member

    Joined:
    Sep 5, 2011
    Member:
    #62962
    Messages:
    2,226
    Gender:
    Male
    As the pic says "approximate depending on your setup" hes going to have to cycle, bump, and strap (cant stress that enough yotafab) for his truck if he goes with DMZ and the 14'' @YotaFAB its easy you just need a competent installer.
     
  10. Apr 12, 2024 at 10:29 AM
    906taco

    906taco Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 22, 2021
    Member:
    #369289
    Messages:
    2,951
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Cory
    Vehicle:
    08 Taco
    Well guys. It finally came to me this morning as to what my “wall” could be with the JD SUA.

    At full bump I have roughly 1/2” of shaft showing. And I never used more than 1/4-1/2” of my bump stop that has 2” of travel.

    so let’s do some math in the severity of axle wrap I was seeing.

    It all makes total sense now. From clapping out driveshafts and carriers to why things cycled perfectly with the pack broken down.

    IMG_0252.jpg
     
    JTFisherman, Caboose117 and Anteupp like this.
  11. Apr 12, 2024 at 10:30 AM
    Suicyco

    Suicyco Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 8, 2017
    Member:
    #210044
    Messages:
    400
    Gender:
    Male
    Vehicle:
    14 ac 4x4
    Tim is cool as hell. Nice to run into people like that. Kinda few and far between
     
    Airdog, Anteupp and 906taco[QUOTED] like this.
  12. Apr 12, 2024 at 10:37 AM
    YotaFAB

    YotaFAB Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 23, 2020
    Member:
    #320111
    Messages:
    461
    Gender:
    Male
    Im waiting for him to call me back. I have someone who will help me install. Im at the planning stages right now. I'm also torn between the Tundra rack or the JD slide rack.
     
    Anteupp[QUOTED] likes this.
  13. Apr 12, 2024 at 10:37 AM
    Anteupp

    Anteupp Mega Member

    Joined:
    Sep 5, 2011
    Member:
    #62962
    Messages:
    2,226
    Gender:
    Male
    Like others have already said Tims awesome, he'll fill your noggin with knowledge and get you squared away

    12" or 14", idk?
    [​IMG]
     
    YotaFAB[QUOTED] likes this.
  14. Apr 12, 2024 at 10:44 AM
    Sterling_vH111

    Sterling_vH111 Go do something real instead.

    Joined:
    Oct 4, 2015
    Member:
    #165793
    Messages:
    2,683
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Sterling
    socal
    Vehicle:
    2012 DCLB Prerunner V6
    Secretly Long Travel & Supercharged
    I interested, but don't know if I follow... are you thinking that axle wrap at full bump is causing your shocks to bottom before the bump is bottoming? They cycle fine on the stands but in reality, you got other stuff at play?
     
  15. Apr 12, 2024 at 10:47 AM
    906taco

    906taco Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 22, 2021
    Member:
    #369289
    Messages:
    2,951
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Cory
    Vehicle:
    08 Taco
    100% what is happening. I’m going to get some actual numbers later today. Curious just how many degrees it boils down to. I was bottoming shocks damn near 2” before full bump because of the wrap. Will report back with numbers.
     
  16. Apr 12, 2024 at 10:50 AM
    Sterling_vH111

    Sterling_vH111 Go do something real instead.

    Joined:
    Oct 4, 2015
    Member:
    #165793
    Messages:
    2,683
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Sterling
    socal
    Vehicle:
    2012 DCLB Prerunner V6
    Secretly Long Travel & Supercharged
    I got some other thing going on with my truck, but with similar symptoms.
    12" raptor shocks with custom hoops and 2" bumps that won't bottom fully with some custom Alcan 5" lift SOA springs. I'm thinking my springs are binding and limiting my up travel though, as I did not have this issue when I was on a modified Deaver j66 pack; with about 3" less lift in the rear.
    Although I could be having the same issue. Not something I had considered.

    Edit: My rear end does not feel rough on "bottoming out" though. I just notice I cannot get the full travel out of the bumps even when airborn, whoops, whoops big enough to make the rear end buck.
     
  17. Apr 12, 2024 at 10:52 AM
    906taco

    906taco Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 22, 2021
    Member:
    #369289
    Messages:
    2,951
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Cory
    Vehicle:
    08 Taco
    I never considered it either. Only because I cycled everything and knew it all checked as good. But after considering certain things it kind of fell into place. Sure as shit. Set screw imprints in my lower rod end.
     
  18. Apr 12, 2024 at 10:53 AM
    Bandido

    Bandido Engine...er

    Joined:
    Sep 4, 2017
    Member:
    #229072
    Messages:
    1,700
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Alex
    Lexington, KY
    Vehicle:
    2003 Tacoma DC
    are your shackles long enough to allow inflection? an SOA setup would have to go negative to get all the way there
     
  19. Apr 12, 2024 at 10:54 AM
    Bandido

    Bandido Engine...er

    Joined:
    Sep 4, 2017
    Member:
    #229072
    Messages:
    1,700
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Alex
    Lexington, KY
    Vehicle:
    2003 Tacoma DC
    what pwt and axle are you running lol. thats a TON of wrap!
     
    906taco[QUOTED] likes this.
  20. Apr 12, 2024 at 10:55 AM
    906taco

    906taco Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 22, 2021
    Member:
    #369289
    Messages:
    2,951
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Cory
    Vehicle:
    08 Taco
    4.0 and a 6 speed with the factory rear. Absolutely an insane amount of wrap.
     

Products Discussed in

To Top