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Long Travel BS Thread

Discussion in 'Long Travel Suspension' started by amaes, Aug 20, 2010.

  1. May 1, 2024 at 6:09 PM
    soggyBottom

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    Anyone use leaf liners?
     
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  3. May 1, 2024 at 6:18 PM
    Evenflow

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    not trolling but aren’t you building a whole new j arm kit ?

    …and what potential solution is there if the cup is overbored ? some sort of shim ?

    do you think they got out of round from being used ? no way they were machined oval…
     
  4. May 1, 2024 at 6:23 PM
    906taco

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    I am building a J arm. But it doesn’t change the fact I’ve officially had a problem with every single part I’ve bought from JD aside from my pivots. And have a bunch of money tied up into this stuff.

    Truthfully, when I recoat them this weekend I’m going to “accidentally” get overspray in the cups.

    they are out of round from welding. Then hogged out with a flap wheel to fit a uniball again. (Can see the marks)….
     
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  5. May 1, 2024 at 6:34 PM
    906taco

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    I wanna be clear too. I’m not out for JD. Not at all. They are good people.

    I did however get frustrated in the last year after dealing with my second consecutive year of my SUA not working as advertised. Chasing my tail being told I had something wrong. Knowing well and good I didn’t.

    But facts are facts. Hopefully as production continued after these early kits some things were improved. I know everyone really seems to like their stuff. And I’m happy for that.

    But I deep dive into things. Research heavy. Daily. Then apply things to my own vehicle and see what could be improved.
     
  6. May 1, 2024 at 6:41 PM
    Caboose117

    Caboose117 foul mouthed Marine

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    smashed this, broke that, covered it up with tape and paint
    Dude
    People have had hiccups with total. Chaos. And dirt. King. shit happens
    Everyone has a Friday at work
    So I don’t know why you can’t both have a problem and them be nice or normal people:cheers:
     
  7. May 1, 2024 at 6:44 PM
    Sixthelement

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    At this point, I should just trade in for a Tremor or Gen2 Raptor
     
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    snowsk8air2

    snowsk8air2 how hard can it be?

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  9. May 1, 2024 at 7:06 PM
    Sixthelement

    Sixthelement Ran over a Yeti once, Texas, never again

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    That or to keep from going stupid. Just get a good ole old man tan crew cab and call it.
     
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    was just curious why you are investing more $ into it if you are building your own kit , are you only building your own UCA ? I assumed you were building a whole kit with fab’d spindles too
     
  11. May 1, 2024 at 9:04 PM
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    Pretty sure he is trying to test out the steering stuff before he completely tears into the front end again.
     
  12. May 2, 2024 at 1:15 AM
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    most likely welded without the proper brass plug installed, easiest way to get them out of round for sure. And short of getting a small layer of clad welding inside and then boring them out on a mill you would have to just replace the cups to get them perfect… definitely not ideal
     
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    It doesn’t seem like a responsible move to have not one but two prototypes going at the same time.

    Just the swingset took 5 months to design, develop and prototype to a working setup. J arm isn’t going to be much different.

    I didn’t get the response I initially wanted to see to make the J arm happen sooner. So now I’m doing it on my time. Which I’m totally fine with.

    The JD kit will live on the truck for one more season then it’s on.
     
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    I hate to make assumptions. But evidence agrees. Something improper was done during the manufacturing process. And that’s concerning to me looking at how long they’ve been around. Really doesn’t make sense. You would think the process would be dialed.

    I hate the finger pointing game. But this stuff isn’t cheap. People work hard to obtain these types of parts. And seeing more things emerge over time definitely raises questions.
     
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  15. May 2, 2024 at 4:50 AM
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    agreed shouldn't have to, but it's an easy solution to a current problem
    weld distortion as mentioned. and there's a selection of bearing retaining compounds ("green loctite") that will do the trick, no hassle

    I'll be taking a good look at my JD arms as they arrive hopefully next week and may preemptively pull the sphericals out once to apply loctite
     
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    TC +2 truck, is this amount of gap normal? Both sides of my truck have significant gap on the aft rear LCA pivots, with the fwd rear pivots absolutely destroying poly bushings. The assumed fix was to switch to delrin, but after digging into this myself vs just having a shop slap it together I'm thinking the issue may be bigger than expected. Truck has seen no impacts to the front that would cause both to be out.

    IMG_20240502_081118_961.jpg
     
  17. May 2, 2024 at 7:46 AM
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    Yes, but new JD Joint does not fit into the previous generation arms, it has a different cup. They were sending out standard uniballs to replace the EMF ball joints
     
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    Yes, however a few of us are having issues with the inner pivot sleeves being too loose causing the uniball to spin in the sleeve.

    I also saw someone on the JD thread with the same issue with the outer pivot when they swapped from EMF to uniball.
     
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  20. May 2, 2024 at 10:49 AM
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    I just called Jesse at JD about the spinning/slipping uniballs because I sell a lot of his products and know he's not really on the forums ever. He said he hasn't gotten a call from anybody about it being an issue, but if anybody sees that happening, just just call and he will take care of it. Jesse and Dave are great guys, and I know that they want everybody to be stoked. I also asked about if they use a brass plug and he said they weld them using aluminum plugs. I definitely didn't think that they wouldn't be using something, so it's interesting that they are still warping.

    Anyway, Jesse just asked me to post and let you guys know that if you're having any sort of issue, to just give him a call and he'll do whatever is needed to make you stoked.
     

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