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Long Travel BS Thread

Discussion in 'Long Travel Suspension' started by amaes, Aug 20, 2010.

  1. Jun 10, 2024 at 9:22 AM
    906taco

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    For perspective on cage strength/design.

    When I was doing NHRA legal cages the largest tube used was 1.625x.083. This was done for cars around 3200lbs crossing the line at 200+mph.

    granted this was all 4130 it’s still small tube considering. I think thinnest used in these chassis was .049.

    Bend as little as possible, miter as much as possible. But when you miter make sure you wall plate it.
     
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    got a scan of the 1gen spindle this weekend... design continues.
    upload_2024-6-10_13-23-55.png
    does anyone know the outer diameter of a 3.75 ID coil?
     
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    every racing org rule book ive looked at for offroad truck racing states you must have 2" .12 wall for anything over 4k lbs...... but i will say the way my truck is balanced if i moved the engine back i would end up even more ass heavy than i already am...
     
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    Play trucks and race trucks are way different.
     
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    Bingo. It wouldn’t still have frame rail if it were a race truck. Either way. Weight still needs to be a consideration with every build. And no race truck out there is ALL .120 wall. Main cage yes. The rest is open to interpretation.

    And even so, getting @WormSquirts truck to a 4,000lb range isn’t out of the realm of possibilities if he’s willing to spend.
     
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    It would have 5ft of frame rails if it was a 1450 race truck! But I can't see 4000lbs happening without some serious effort. Maybe if I ditched 4wd, which isn't an option for me. 4500-5000lbs seems reasonable on my current course.

    But either way, weight reduction where I can is something I definitely want to keep top of mind!
     
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    Cut entire inner structure out of the cab. Billet everything. Lightest wheel, tire, rotor package possible. Aluminum block. It’s plenty doable if you really wanted to.
     
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    I wonder how much my truck weighs right now.
     
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    smashed this, broke that, covered it up with tape and paint
    All of it
    The whole thing

    Probably maxed out:rofl:
     
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    I’m not much over 5k. A couple years ago it was pushing 5900lbs. Feel like I could easily drop another 1,000 off if I really wanted. And who knows. That day may come. First I need to figure out what direction I plan to go with it. Full chassis, or build something that will actually have room like an OBS F-150.
     
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    Can anyone with a dmz kit show me your rear bump stop setup?
    I currently have the total chaos bolt on style with a 2x2 bump and that's probably going to have to go.
     
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    Personally I’d leave it on and see where it lands when you cycle the leaf’s. If it doesn’t work get a new mounting method but 2x2 hydro bumps are fine with SUA
     
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    Thanks dude
     
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    2"x4" bumps in the rear?
     
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    Pittsy

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    Ugh I’m struggling to remember. They were either 6” shortened to 4” or 4” shortened to 2”. Let me read my build thread again.
     
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    Probs 4 shortened to 2 if i had to guess, looking at that picture.
     
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    Yep correct, 4” to 2”.
     
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    Anyone else ever experience a coil randomly act like it no longer wants to carry weight?

    My drivers front started noticeably sagging last week.

    pulled the C/O and adjusted. Sat perfect. Now today I’m noticing it’s sagging again.

    I’ve personally never experienced something like this before but am feeling like it’s an early indication to a possible failure.
     

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