Long Travel BS Thread

Cr250jumper · Feb 23, 2012

^What did you end up going with?

jtlachac08 · Feb 23, 2012

Marnes2986 said: ↑

Marnes: "the reason you run such little valving in a leaf spring set up is the leafs them selves and the bushings all create friction while they move. that friction is almost enough to not need rebound valving"

Jtlachac08: Exactly, thats what I was saying! The rebound adjustment that I was talking about was to slow down the rebound of the spring with the shock.

I believe you are reading the quotation wrong. What the person is saying is that the leafs and bushings have so much friction already that it is slowing down the tire from dropping fast enough. That is why he recommends "little rebound valving" so the tire drops down faster.

I dont claim to be an expert that is why I have those quotations. Some made from racers and one person who readily valves shocks for other racers.

But we can agree to disagree. I just know ever since I started getting into offroading, the major concensus was that "leaf spring trucks should have little rebound valving" I know there may be loop holes. But leafs do not act the same way a dirtbike or linked truck suspension works.

This is exactly what i am trying to convey..... Leafs are a whole different setup than Links (w/ coilovers). You might think that if you compress leafs it will get back to its original arch right away. But thats not the case.

If i put a fat chick on my bed and she jumps off. my lefs will not bounce back to its original form. The bushings and other factors restrict this. But if you put a fat chick on the back of a linked truck and she jumps off. im sure you will see a bigger difference of ride height compared to leafs. because the coils are pushing back
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I get what your saying. And by any means Im not trying to argue nor am I trying to get my truck to act like a linked truck, its never gonna happen. Just trying to get the best performance I can out of what I have to work with.

RJALLDAY702 · Feb 23, 2012

Cr250jumper said: ↑

^What did you end up going with?
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zee race kit

Sabre · Feb 23, 2012

RJALLDAY702 said: ↑

zee race kit
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Nice spindles hubs and all?

TC yota · Feb 23, 2012

jtlachac08 said: ↑

You seem pretty educated on this!

Why does my rear end compress nice and plush and then springs down real fast bucking my rear end up before the next whoop?
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It's hard to say without seeing a video, sounds like the compression could be too soft, causing you completely bottom out on the whoop. Are you running air bumps?

FearNothing321 · Feb 23, 2012

RJALLDAY702 said: ↑

zee race kit
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does it have vertical uniballs in the UCA? and are you bumping it off of the UCA?

TC yota · Feb 23, 2012

Marnes2986 said: ↑

Marnes: "the reason you run such little valving in a leaf spring set up is the leafs them selves and the bushings all create friction while they move. that friction is almost enough to not need rebound valving"

Jtlachac08: Exactly, thats what I was saying! The rebound adjustment that I was talking about was to slow down the rebound of the spring with the shock.

I believe you are reading the quotation wrong. What the person is saying is that the leafs and bushings have so much friction already that it is slowing down the tire from dropping fast enough. That is why he recommends "little rebound valving" so the tire drops down faster.

I dont claim to be an expert that is why I have those quotations. Some made from racers and one person who readily valves shocks for other racers.

But we can agree to disagree. I just know ever since I started getting into offroading, the major concensus was that "leaf spring trucks should have little rebound valving" I know there may be loop holes. But leafs do not act the same way a dirtbike or linked truck suspension works.

This is exactly what i am trying to convey..... Leafs are a whole different setup than Links (w/ coilovers). You might think that if you compress leafs it will get back to its original arch right away. But thats not the case.

If i put a fat chick on my bed and she jumps off. my lefs will not bounce back to its original form. The bushings and other factors restrict this. But if you put a fat chick on the back of a linked truck and she jumps off. im sure you will see a bigger difference of ride height compared to leafs. because the coils are pushing back
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This

rcfreak201 · Feb 23, 2012

FearNothing321 said: ↑

does it have vertical uniballs in the UCA? and are you bumping it off of the UCA?
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yeap verticals and its bumped off the LCA. atleast with the ranger race kit. im assuming it'll be a similar concept

Cr250jumper · Feb 23, 2012

RJALLDAY702 said: ↑

zee race kit
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RJALLDAY702 · Feb 23, 2012

Sabre said: ↑

Nice spindles hubs and all?
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yes

Sabre · Feb 23, 2012

RJALLDAY702 said: ↑

yes
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Damn that's gonna be sick I can't wait

rondog · Feb 23, 2012

anyone know why my leaf springs would be rubbing on my shackles? It's doing it on both sides of the truck

RJALLDAY702 · Feb 23, 2012

Yeah dude! I'm super stoked!

nelson18matt · Feb 23, 2012

rondog said: ↑

anyone know why my leaf springs would be rubbing on my shackles? It's doing it on both sides of the truck
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worn bushing?

blackhawke88 · Feb 23, 2012

rondog said: ↑

anyone know why my leaf springs would be rubbing on my shackles? It's doing it on both sides of the truck
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pics?

Anthony250 · Feb 23, 2012

http://www.race-dezert.com/classifieds/index.php?ct=orpart&md=details&id=16748

Tacorunner87 · Feb 23, 2012

Doing work, have a long ways to go

tostidos · Feb 23, 2012

nelson18matt said: ↑

ride height, extra track width, strength, gnar baller status... and i'll eventually do the lower conversion. Solo wants $800 for it though, so going to go with the home made option
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Noob question. What is the added benefit of more track width besides lateral stability?

nelson18matt · Feb 23, 2012

Anthony250 said: ↑

http://www.race-dezert.com/classifieds/index.php?ct=orpart&md=details&id=16748
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damn, wish they were bigger than 4"

nelson18matt · Feb 23, 2012

tostidos said: ↑

Noob question. What is the added benefit of more track width besides lateral stability?
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nothing really except it looks cool

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