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Long Travel Poll

Discussion in 'Long Travel Suspension' started by ggerdsen, Oct 12, 2009.

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Best Long Travel Suspension

Poll closed Nov 11, 2009.
  1. Camburg

    12 vote(s)
    18.8%
  2. Total Chaos

    25 vote(s)
    39.1%
  3. All Pro

    16 vote(s)
    25.0%
  4. Other

    11 vote(s)
    17.2%
  1. Oct 12, 2009 at 4:44 PM
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    ggerdsen

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    What in your opinion is the best Long Travel suspension manufacturer?
     
  2. Oct 12, 2009 at 4:51 PM
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    Post pics of your rigs!
     
  3. Oct 12, 2009 at 4:51 PM
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    Don't know anything about it so don't have an opinion but, subscribed.
     
  4. Oct 12, 2009 at 4:53 PM
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    Yeah same here, just starting to do some research myself.
     
  5. Oct 12, 2009 at 4:54 PM
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    ColtsTRD

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    Total Chaos's components are amazing! I'd go with them for sure...
     
  6. Oct 12, 2009 at 5:03 PM
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    Had tons on the Taco's.... new truck is pretty stock
    I really like the looks of the TC kits.
     
  7. Oct 12, 2009 at 5:06 PM
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    What are the main differences between these different setups? THey all seem similar to me. Is it build quality or just the companies reps that separate these kits from one another? Are the technologies basically the same?
     
  8. Oct 12, 2009 at 5:16 PM
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    I really like the fact that you dont need glass fenders with the allpro setup...
     
  9. Oct 12, 2009 at 5:51 PM
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  10. Oct 12, 2009 at 6:15 PM
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    Subscribed.
     
  11. Oct 12, 2009 at 6:16 PM
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  12. Oct 12, 2009 at 6:20 PM
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    Long travel is like truck porno. Oh so sexy and even better, the functionality.
     
  13. Oct 12, 2009 at 6:37 PM
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    TC and Camburg are the way to go, Nothing against All Pro, but the other two have been in the LT business for a long time, and have real race results to back there product up....
     
  14. Oct 12, 2009 at 6:46 PM
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    Would my local off-road shop be able to do one of these installs? Or are there special considerations to be taken into accout?
     
  15. Oct 12, 2009 at 6:52 PM
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    Depends on what you want, The front end isnt too bad, probably any shop could do it, but the back end can be tricky, and alot of fabrication may be required....
     
  16. Oct 12, 2009 at 7:18 PM
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    As with all modifications, the "best" option is dependent on how you'll use your truck, the region of the country you're in, your budget, relationships with vendors, personal technical expertise, etc. What's below is generally specific to the 05+ 6-lug Tacomas.


    Generalities:
    - Any long travel that works with 4wd will work with 2wd, but the inverse is not always the case
    - Your coilovers will need to be replaced. Most LT kits are designed to work with 8" travel shocks.
    - You'll want to reinforce your stock spindles on 4wd rigs. 2wd are well served upgrading to aftermarket spindles
    - Self-installation of longer front 4wd axles in the stock CVs is possible but a major PITA. Save yourself the time and hassle and drop a couple of bucks to have a shop do it.
    - All rigs should have their alignment cam tabs reinforced. You'll flatten them after 1 decent trip offroad
    - Consider reinforcing your lower control arm frame mounts if you're gonna bash hard
    - Pre-07 trucks must reinforce the engine mounts. All trucks should
    - Don't bother getting a differential drop on an 05+ Tacoma (LT or mid-travel)
    - Going front long-travel will get you pushing your truck. Expect the rear end to bounce up and come around on you if you don't be careful and/or upgrade it to something equally supple.
    - Your already-upgraded upper control arms on your mid-travel setup will not work with a long-travel kit. All kits come with required new UCAs.
    - If you're running big tires you'll want to trim and reinforce your body mounts to avoid rubbing


    Popular front long travel options:
    All Pro Offroad's kit uses 2" extended tube-style upper and lower arms on each side. Travel around 12" or so.
    Pros: Maintain 4x4 with extended front axles, does not require front fiberglass fenders, narrower track width for crawling and tight trails, comes with a heavy-duty steering upgrade
    Cons: No way of mounting a secondary shock
    http://www.allprooffroad.com/fjfrontsuspension/fjlongtravel

    Total Chaos's kit widens the truck 3.5" on each side and pulls 13" of usable wheel travel.
    Pros: Maintain 4x4 with extended front axles, secondary shock mount with optional shock hoop, option for heim joint UCAs, proven and popular kit with many installation shop options
    Cons: Requires fiberglass fenders
    I'm not sure if anybody races the TC kit so I won't say definitively one way or the other.
    http://www.chaosfab.com/86000.html

    Camburg Engineering's kit also widens the truck 3.5" on each side and pulls 14" of wheel travel on 4wd and 15" of travel on 2wd rigs. Offers a full-race 2wd kit for pre-2005 Tacomas pulling 19" of travel.
    Pros: Maintain 4x4 with extended front axles, secondary shock mount with optional shock hoop, use of 1.25" uniballs to increase travel without binding, heavy gusseting around all joints, race-proven (Team Shark Attack), travel numbers, allows use of air bumps on 2wd vehicles
    Cons: Requires fiberglass fenders
    http://www.camburg.com/tacomaP05.html
    *Disclaimer: I run Camburg's kit and am a bit biased. I went with them after going a lot of research. The breakage I suffered was my own fault as I installed the lower uniball housing upside down. It's easy to do so feel free to contact me if you have questions. :eek:

    Engage Offroad has a race-proven kit that's recent been adopted by a lot of late-model Tacoma owners. Their kit for previous generation Tacoma is highly respected.
    Pros: Price, maintain 4x4 with extended front axles, options for race upgrades, secondary shock mount with optional shock hoop
    Cons: Requires fiberglass fenders
    http://www.framtidgames.com/main.html

    Richer Racing's kit widen's the truck by 4.5" on each side, is 2wd only, and pulls 16+" of wheel travel.
    Pros: Big travel numbers, race proven, extremely strong design, allows for secondary shock and air bump
    Cons: 2wd only, requires fiberglass fenders, wide track width
    http://www.richerracing.com/Pages/Products/04F150/LongTravelKit.html


    Popular rear long travel options:
    While the front long travel kits are mostly bolt-on and can be done in a garage with basic hand tools, rear long travel requires extensive fabrication, cutting, grinding, welding, etc. All rear long travel kits will require use of fiberglass bedsides, alterations to the driveshaft, shocks, and custom shock hoops. Expect to run wheel spacers or a wider rear axle to clear big shocks outside the framerails.

    DMZ Fabrication 62" complete spring-under conversion kit. Race-proven and designed specifically for the 05+ Tacoma.
    http://dmzfab.com/products.html

    Giant Motorsports 64" complete spring-under conversion kit. Race-proven and seen primarily on Ford Rangers.
    http://giantmotorsports.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=41&Itemid=51
    *Disclaimer: The Giant kit is my personal choice due to the shackle design and travel numbers. I'm running it with 18" travel, 3" 4-tube bypass Fox shocks with excellent results.

    Engage Offroad cantilever kit. Shocks are mounted horizontally and maintains full use of the bed.
    http://www.framtidgames.com/main.html

    All-Pro Baja Leafs. Requires custom hangers, shackles, fabrication, etc. These springs have recently been introduced at a strong price point and have been tested with excellent reviews.
    http://www.allprooffroad.com/tech-info-mainmenu-63/bajaleafs


    There are always more options but that should be enough to get the discussion started. :)
     
  17. Oct 12, 2009 at 7:26 PM
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  18. Oct 12, 2009 at 7:32 PM
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    Thanks guys. I figure I'd help someone else avoid the trial-and-error I went through. That stuff gets expensive quick. :anonymous:
     
  19. Oct 12, 2009 at 7:32 PM
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