Long Travel vs Mid Travel

Got ya, I meant if you go with a true LT spring under, then you will cut off the factory mounts and have hoops. Wasn't sure if you were looking into the DMZ SUA kit or what not. I didn't have enough confidence that the fabbers here could do a DMZ kit without a lot of issue as they don't do LT over here hardly at all. So in my case just relocated my stuff to get a clean 12 which when I get my front set up with 13 it wont be too bad.

Coot

 

Yes, the only spring under kit that will go on my truck will be a LT one. Either a DMZ or the one Camburg is running on their 17' Tacoma.

 

DMZ Tim is a great man.

 

HAHA.

I was originally from SoCal. So I had the long travel before moving to Utah. This state has a wide range of desert or crawling. I find that I get stuck less often since my tires are usually touching the ground while crawling. That being said. It is a huge investment. You should only go long travel if you can see yourself getting your monies worth... For perspective people in this state (utah) spend $8k - $10k on mtn bikes or dirtbikes. For those people, that is a hobby. My truck is my hobby.. lol

 

Oh I'm with that bro. There's no point in buy LT and not using it. Like buying a truck and not hauling a thing or afraid to scratch the bed lol. Utah is like the best you got Mtn and desert within distance

 

He sure is! Someday that kit will make it's way onto my truck.

 

I know this is an old thread, but what route as far as parts and work do y'all advise going with a '16 shortbed rocking stage 4 Icon suspension? I was looking into Baja kits 4x4 prerunner kit but, being that I'm mechanically savvy, I'm not sure what else I'll need to do to make sure I have a durable setup good for mobbing the trails up in northern cali. Not trying to get a cage, mess with the bed or anything as its my DD. Any feedback would be killer, thanks.

 

Understand that your rear end sets the capability for what your truck can do. Baja kits makes a good 2+ set up. If you want to go mobbing I suggest the 3.5 for a little bit more money.

 

What's the difference between the 2+ and 3.5? (Sorry if its a newb question) I'm not worried about spending a little extra for a solid setup seeing that I'd pay in the long run for going cheap and breaking something. I just want to know what I can add and do with my current suspension.

If you don't feel like giving a rookie rundown of things you know who I could call/email to find out?

 

+2 gives you about 11.5" of travel and +3.5" gives you 13-14" the +2 and +3.5 refer to how much your track width widens up front. As always the travel you get up front doesn't matter unless you modify your suspension in the rear so if you don't plan on going with spring under axle in the rear then you're not going to be able to use your front suspension to its full potential in the front with a +3.5 kit. Start reading up on rear suspension because it's going to be more expensive than the front if you do it right.

https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/considering-long-travel-read-here-first.180457/

https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/lets-talk-rear-lt.484437/

 

So basically if I want to get full use out of the front I have to beef up the rear (something I planned on doing as I feel that's somewhat common sense) and to beef up the rear properly I'll have to slap on a SUA, and in order to do that I'll have to cut into the bed? I plan on keeping in MT as I understand from already reading thru the first link you posted it get costly with parts and maintenance (especially since I can't do most of the work myself) if you plan on doing it right, and to my understanding I have to stay MT if I want to keep my Icon. If I went 2+ route would I still be able to do some solid mobbing? I don't plan on jumping my rig multiple feet in the air or anytime but it needs to be able to take a pounding without having to worry too much about breaking anything, relatively speaking.

 

Did you do the install on your front? You definitely saved a good amount on labor costs by installing the rear. Most guys that can do that will probably spend the same as the front, but to have a bed cage or at least hoops installed along with the welding on the DMZ kit or other weld on kits it's going to be another grand at least.

 

Fair enough. The point is you'll answer your own question about the front with what you decide to do on the rear.

 

I plan on beefing up the rear as far as travel and durability goes as much as I can while keeping my Icon. I'll add on whatever I have to I'm just not trying to swap out the suspension I've already paid for and installed you know? If you were in my place what would you do? Sorry for playing 20 questions

 

What are you rocking on your rig now? Yea I'm not trying to throw away money as I'll be dropping a ton already with what I'd like to do. Baja kit said my icon totally works with their 4x4 prerunner kit, with a few additions for longevity

 

Depends on what you're doing with your truck. That comes first. You'll need a bed cage and 16" shocks w/ sua if you want to hit whoops going 50. If you just want to haul ass on fire roads then stay soa. The money you save can buy a supercharger or hydro bumps for the rear and a bunch of armor etc.

 

More so the latter, as I live about an hour west of Lake Tahoe and the Rubicon trail and that's really all there is out here. I just want it built well enough that if I hit some whoops at decent speed and catch less than a foot of air I'm not going to have to get my taco towed back to my mechanic's garage. I'm probably asking for something that can't happen aren't I?

 

I spent two days this past weekend taking off my rear suspension and removing all of the stock spring hangers and all the rivets through the frame. The right tools will make the job easier forsure. After this weekend, I don't blame you wanting to pay a shop to remove them.

 

If you are planning on keeping your rear and stay SOA, then I would shoot for the 2+. Many guys on here have SOA with the 2+ route and Im sure it works for them. LT has a nice plush feel to it, you will notice pretty fast that SOA wont likely feel the same, especially if you keep your shocks in the stock location and keep your icons.

IMO though, if you are fixated on decision making due to the expense of your icon kit...may want to not do LT. LT takes alot of stuff to get there, and some Icon rear shocks are likely the least expensive part of converting TBH.