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Long travel vs Suspension lift

Discussion in 'Long Travel Suspension' started by bulldogs123, Jul 15, 2009.

  1. Jul 15, 2009 at 6:25 PM
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    bulldogs123

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    What are the pros and cons of a long travel kit or a suspension lift(looking at a 6inch)? I like to go off roading alot. There are trails that I like to go down with hills and it's fairly rough terrain at certain spots. The fields get real muddy after a rain. I'm looking for something that will perform awesome offroad and be a good daily driver too. I will be getting a 2009 taco 4x4. I was looking at the camburg long travel kit with the arb deluxe brush bar bumper. I'm pretty in familiar with the long travel kit. Does it lift the truck any and what size tires would clear? Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated!

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    Shawn
     
  2. Jul 15, 2009 at 6:34 PM
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    I can't really help you other than to say with the camburg kit, you'll need fiberglass fenders to clear the tires (me thinks 35s, but could be wrong)...

    Allpro LT kit lets you keep stock fenders...
     
  3. Jul 15, 2009 at 8:43 PM
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    Well if you're deciding between a DB 6" lift or the LT kit?
    No comparison! Take the LT kit!
    My vote will be for All Pro!
    DB is decent for offroading, but nowhere near the LT kit.

    From good to best!
    -3" lift (limited down travel after lift)
    -6" DB lift (Just a little better than a 3" lift because you keep 100% of the suspension articulation)
    -LT kit (Increased articulation, but much wider front wheel base (Maybe an issue for a daily driver)
    -SAC (Sky's the limit)
     
  4. Jul 15, 2009 at 11:06 PM
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    what is an SAC?
     
  5. Jul 15, 2009 at 11:18 PM
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  6. Jul 15, 2009 at 11:43 PM
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    I'd go long travel for serious offroading. The DB lifts are okay for offroad, but are more for looks and to be able to fit larger tires, whereas the LT kits are all about suspension performance. The increased articulation you get out of a LT setup and increased ground clearance will dominate any 6" lift. Oh, and yes, 35's fit with a little trimming on the Longtravel. I'd vote allpro for the longtravel from what I've seen of their new kit.
     
  7. Jul 16, 2009 at 12:33 AM
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    if you do trails like i do, and if you are thinking about a LT kit...seriously take consideration into the All-Pro Long Travel Kit.. i have it and all i can say is my truck is now in a class of it's own. it's only 2" wider on each side so you wont have to have fiberglass finders, and it's not too wide for the tight trails...this kit handles great so far, the steering great...on my first run on it throught the desert i got confident enough with the kit i was pulling 4wheel drifts coming out of turns like it was nothing..total control Dukes of Hazard style haha..and, i could go as fast as i dared to while not bouncing all over the place...

    on the trail it's even better...like a mini SAC haha...the amount of up and down travel is insane and the articulation is crazy...a good example on how it did on the first trail run this past sunday...my buddy with his FJ on 35's with his front/rear locker engaged was having some trouble getting up and over some rocks..took him some work and lining up several times but he eventualy struggled over them...when i came up using his same exact line i made it up and over the first time like it was nothing..reason being, the way the front was articulating kept the wheels on the ground for traction..no 3wheeled stands like my buddies FJ..of course i had my rear locker engaged but still..

    here's some teaser pics of the kit...pics taking by http://www.SiRMarlon.com[​IMG]
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    these pics taking sunday at cleghorn..only 2 cuz everybody is lazy to get em uploaded haha...taking by BillDozer (TTORA)

    making the easy line hard..just testing on how stable the new track width is haha
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    and...look at all that ground clearance :D
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  8. Jul 16, 2009 at 3:01 AM
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    I would say go with the Camburg Long Travel setup. FTW!!!!!!!!
     
  9. Jul 16, 2009 at 7:58 AM
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    ^...haha, great generalized answer...care to elaberate some more
     
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    WOW that truck looks amazing!!!:eek:
     
  12. Jul 16, 2009 at 8:24 AM
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    Yo Shawn, welcome to TW.

    Let's hear some responses from you regarding what kind of wheeling you'll do. Camburg and All Pro each have their strengths in terms of LT. 6" lifts are cheaper and make it easier to clear 35" tires but don't gain ground clearance apart from straight tire size gains due to the drop-bracket design.

    Speak up, dude.
     
  13. Jul 16, 2009 at 2:22 PM
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    Calm down turbo. I'm not knockin All-Pro at all. No need to be defensive. I actually like their stuff. And I love your truck. Just my preference is for Camburg. That is the setup I am getting in the near future. I'm also into prerunning and it looks like you are into that and crawling. I want the extra width and travel. I want to run glass fenders and bedsides. Plus I know their work, I like the company and I get a discount.
     
  14. Jul 16, 2009 at 2:31 PM
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    not to bench race here...but it "seems" that the allpro LT kit is aimed for the rock/trail enthusiast and the camburg/TC LT kits are aimed towards desert running. I also couldn't find how much travel you gain with the allpro LT kit on their page. Camburg and TC both have the travel listed and looks like a little more track width.
    MP def came up on this deal. Congrats man! looks good.
     
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    i just wanted your opinion thats all...it would be helpfull to the OP and others who may be intersested in a LT or Lift who are not decided yet..

    all the LT company's out there are very good, no arguing about that...all comes down to what you wanna do with your truck...me, i wanna do it all!!
     
  16. Jul 16, 2009 at 2:39 PM
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    you're kidding right? A DB lift better offroad than mid-travel?

    mid travel you increase the travel and raise the truck only up to ~3", keeping your center of gravity low. DB you keep the same travel and raise the truck...

    Even LT don't raise the truck more than 3", but they give more travel allowing the tire to go lower before being off the ground.

    the DB lift only raises the "truck" so you can fit larger tires, you don't get added articulation, which is crutial for off roading.

    I think most that actually wheel the shit out of their trucks would agree it should go (worse to best) for the front:
    Block Lift / Body Lift
    DB lift (99% of the guys do it for show). if you could increase both uptravel and downtravel with the DB that would be a different story.
    Coilover Lift (mid-travel w/ UCA)
    Remote Resi coilover lift (only necessary if you think you can overheat your shocks)
    LT (many options, from mild to wild)
    SAS (fab needed, very custom)

    for the rear:
    blocks / body lift
    add a leaf + shocks
    full leafs + reservoir shocks
    LT with shocks though the bed, hoops, etc.
    (even SAS'ed trucks keep the leafs in the rear and don't change to link)
     
  17. Jul 16, 2009 at 2:44 PM
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    I agree with you MonkeyProof, most of these companies got some good shit.

    BeachBoy. You forgot 4-link in the rear for crawlers and prerunners.
     
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    12" of travel..and thats with 4wd too...

    this kit in my opinion is a well rounded balanced kit that allows to do whatever type of terrain you like....i ran with the SoCal TTORA prerunner guys last saturday and stayed up with them with no problem..and some of those rigs were BUILT...sunday, i did a trail with the ROCK BRAWLERS...this sunday were doing bullfrog trail..lots O' crawling there :D..i'll defiantly will have pics from that trail to show the potential of this kit..

    here's a video of my LT in action out in Lucerne Valley...my lil 10 second spot comes in at 1:01 haha..

    ....video made by marnes2986 (TTORA)

    http://vimeo.com/5565218
     
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    nice vid!! The blue DMZ trucks seems to have the better setup, or is it an illusion? I am looking at the trucks bouncing and it seems the blue one bounces the least.
     
  20. Jul 16, 2009 at 3:14 PM
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    i would watch the vid if the damn internet over here in Iraq didnt suck so bad.
     
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