Loose Spark Plug From The Factory

Buy them from the usually auto parts store like everybody else. Where is this mythical place you buy from that never makes a mistake?

Never said I could spot a tenth of a degree by eye, I clearly said that it is not difficult see a camber issue when the spec is negative and the wheel is clearing at positive camber. Did you even read my post?

It doesn't take a skilled professional technician to correct the problem. It can be done with a couple I-beam's, fishing line, a tape measure, and a level. Let me guess, you use one of those fancy machines that you input the car, spin some laser gizmo, and it tells which way to turn the wrench?

Don't get me wrong, I am not bashing you or trying to belittle your knowledge. Just trying to help you out.

 

The bearing plates are only needed when you're making adjustments to allow the tires free movement during said adjustments, not to free the suspension from binding If what you were saying was true, the suspension would be binding just driving down the road since were not always driving on bearing plates.

The $50k Hunter alignment machine we had at my old shop had heads that clamped onto the tires and you simply rolled the car back and forth to give you the initial measurements. The locking pins never had to be removed from the bearing plates until adjustments were needed.

Don't get me wrong, I am not bashing you or trying to belittle your knowledge. Just trying to help you out.

 

@Sungod

 

@mattleg - I can't tell whether this has negative camber or not, can you? The bald inside edge of the tires isn't a dead give-away either. Do you know any "trained professionals" I could consult with?

 

You beat me to it!

 

Oh man I can not stop laughing at that meme!

 

And it's only Wednesday. Wonder if he'll be back, I've got a few more meme idea's brewing.

 

He'll definitely be back, he can't help himself. Isn't it funny how he said he's been "turning wrenches for 30 years" yet has never received a used part and only rarely has to return something? Wrong parts were almost a daily occurrence at any one of the three shops I worked at. Then he starts throwing around terms like caster sweep thinking it will add some validity to his story. He's so full of shit, I guarantee you this dude is some grease ball tire shop manager. The only thing he's been doing for 30 years is conning people into buying shitty offbrand, high profit margin tires. I can only imagine the way he talks down to and belittles customers.

 

I'm guessing you have never done an alignment or you are just not doing them correctly. I know guys that take measurements before they pull the pins, but they do that knowing they will get readings that show it out of spec. They pull the pins bounce the vehicle a few times and magically it is back in spec.

 

I buy from a number of source, but I also don't rely on the guy behind the parts counter to tell me what I need. I do the research myself and tell them what I need. Maybe that is why I don't have problems?

I did read your post, and your assertion that you can eyeball 1 degrees of camber is with your eye still isn't possible. 15 degrees like the the picture you posted, sure, but that isn't what we are talking about and that isn't something that can be fixed with normal adjustments. We are talking about a typical everyday driver where the difference between in spec and out of spec can be fractional degrees.

While it is possible to do an alignment without a machine, outside of a toe set doing anymore than that with real accuracy is extremely difficult. How are you sweeping for caster in your driveway? How are you measuring fractional degrees with your bubble level? You would still need a set of turn plates. I mean you could do anything and maybe get lucky and get it right, but if you are looking for precision and first time accuracy, you won't get that doing an alignment in your drive way.

 

My trade is ship design. Anything off a plumb line is very noticable. This is the case with hull form development as well as a front end picture of a vehicle with positive or negative camber. Not sure why he argues so much on these forums though lol.

Vessels with 2 degrees of deadrise looks like a steep grade when you're used to looking at flat hull bottoms.

 

You called it, I owe you a beer.

 

Oh I see, you're "that" guy. You spend all that time researching the the part you need, then criticize others who just walk in door, ask for the right part, and take a mere second to open the box to confirm. Not trying to stereotype you, but "That" guy, got it, thanks for clarifying.

Never said I was doing it in my driveway. And no, not a bubble level. A proper digital camber level. Did you think I was building a house or something?

Don't get me wrong, I am not bashing you or trying to belittle your knowledge. Just trying to help you out.

 

Too tired to look for it, but wasn't there a comment above about being able to tell an engine was running lean/had lost hp just by looking a picture?

 

OK chief, I'll let you feel like you win and not respond to your next juvenile response. I wasn't trying to ridicule you for your ignorance, but apparently you have taken it that way. I can only hope that you have actually learned something the next time you jump into a subject that is way over your head. So when you get out in your driveway with your I-beam and fishing line and realize that you are way over your head because you find that your xray vision isn't as good as a precision laser that you can take your mess to a trained ASE certified professional to fix your mess. Just do us a favor and let us do our work and until you get the same level of knowledge that you listen a little more and talk a little less.

 

I've done literally thousands of alignments. I could be like you and throw out terms like steering access inclination and scrub radius angle to try and add credibility to my story, but I don't need to since I actually know what I'm talking about. You on the other hand, do not know what you're talking about. Unless you're making adjustments or lifting the front or rear of the vehicle, then you don't need to pull the pins to get an accurate measurement. The case you've made is that a vehicle can't possibly be within spec unless it's on bearing plates... think about that for a minute.

Don't get me wrong, I am not bashing you or trying to belittle your knowledge. Just trying to help you out.

 

Oh good, I’m glad you realized your issues. If you hadn’t noticed all those responses were modified copy and pastes of your own posts; so really, you were arguing with your own juvenile self. I hope you actually learned something. Absolutely, next time I will come to you when I need:

 

@mattleg Do these come at the special price of "One Million Dollars"?

 

I remember an entire shop full of ASE Certified techs "fixing" my LJ death wobble...

Spoiler alert: "ASE Certified" doesnt mean shit

 

Wtf does all of this have to do with loose sparkplugs ????