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Lowering first gen 5-lug

Discussion in 'Street Trucks' started by ddnayl21, Mar 3, 2017.

  1. May 3, 2023 at 4:45 PM
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    Here's a picture of a drop spindle next to a stock spindle. You can see that the drop spindle physically lowers the attachment point of the wheel in relation to the assembly.
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  2. May 3, 2023 at 4:46 PM
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    Not really. Jack it up and take a front wheel off and take a couple pics from different angle of the entire suspension in the wheel well
     
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  3. May 3, 2023 at 4:52 PM
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    I will have to wait until it's stops raining to remove the front tire to get a better angle . I don't think these last shots are any bett3r

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  4. May 3, 2023 at 5:07 PM
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    That first picture makes me think it's a lowering spindle. Thoughts? @Murd3rd
     
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  5. May 3, 2023 at 5:14 PM
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    I've been going back and forth between his pics and what I have on my phone of my truck. I retract my statement about him not having a ball joint flip.

    I almost guarantee his truck has the DJM lowering kit which is just an aftermarket upper control arm and the right length hardware to flip the lower ball joint. It's usually good for something like 3 inches of spindle drop.

    You need to find a parts breakdown of the stock suspension and put your lower ball joint back to the original position. You could probably find someone that might trade you for the upper control arm as well.
     
  6. May 3, 2023 at 5:17 PM
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    Your upper control arm and lower ball joint should like this for it to be stock. This is my truck, I have the QA1 coilovers but have my control arms and ball joints in the stock locations. Upper ball joint is *inside* the upper control arm, and the lower ball joint is *under* the lower control arm with the stut rod being on top of the lower control arm.

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  7. May 3, 2023 at 5:27 PM
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    how aboiut these ?

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  8. May 3, 2023 at 5:32 PM
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    Yep, flipped lower ball joint and DJM upper control arm.
     
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    So two new upper control arms and two new balljoints installed in the factory orientation. Not bad really,
     
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    what is the solution to raising it up , flipping it back? purchasing ne parts ? and thanks for bearing with me ,no pun intended.These pic helped ?
     
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    Those pics were exactly what was needed. The solution is to install a factory style upper control arm on both sides, and two new ball joints installed in the factory location on the lower arms.

    like murdered said earlier, you can probably sell the control arms or swap them with somebody who wants to lower their truck.
     
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    Is it something I could do and can I drive the truck until I do it ? with out harming it . thanks for your expertise
     
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    thanks bananaman , Have any ideas about the best place to but them ? No other name except upper arm for 2001 toyota tacoma 5 lug . Juust curious , how much higher ? will the seem level . Could you use those arms .
     
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    and just to be sure ,it is safe to drive until ? and thats the last question i will ask , but thank you so much !!!!!
     
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    Yes you can drive it as it sits. But you also don't need new lower ball joints, just relocate the lower ball joint to *under* the lower control arm. Super simple, 4 bolts.

    The upper arms can maybe still be used, but I doubt you'll be able to get the camber in spec if you just relocate the lower ball joint and try to align it. It might also be possible to relocate the upper ball joint to the bottom of the upper control arm, but idk, I've never had the DJM arms.
     
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    i'm sorry just one more , do you need to press the bearings and arevthese them ?

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    No. They are old school bearings like your 80s pickup had. One spindle nut and 2 wheel bearings plus the inner seal
     
  18. May 3, 2023 at 6:14 PM
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    No, those are for a pre-runner\4wd - 6 lug truck
     
  19. May 3, 2023 at 6:29 PM
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    Yours look like this

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    And again, unless your lower ball joints are shot, you can re-use the ones you have.
     
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    Hello Bananaman and murd3rd :
    Thanks for all the advice . If you are up for it , I still need help , and it is appreciated !!!
    Just drove the truck with about 1200 lbs. up north and the load sort of leveled the truck .
    went on a road with pot holes and felt the front bottoming out .

    I have raised the truck with two jack stands , removed the wheels and I'm ready to begin.
    I went to rock auto and found the part dorman 522739 . Is this the same for both sides ?
    Can you recommend a tutorial i could watch ? from the pics I uploaded with out the wheels ,were you able to see if they did not change the front spring ?


    (Those pics were exactly what was needed. The solution is to install a factory style upper control arm on both sides, and two new ball joints installed in the factory location on the lower arms)

    looking on line ,can I assume who ever did this purchased a complete lowering kit ?
    you mentioned DJM bottom arm

    Is there a step by step tutorial about what I'm trying to do ?
    Is this as straight forward as removing the blocks in the back ?
    Can it just be done by replacing both upper arms and repositioning the bottoms ?
    Should I disassemble what needs to be disassembled to determine the ball joint condition ?

    If these questions are asking more than either of you casually want to be involved , I completely understand
     

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