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LR UCA guys get in here please

Discussion in 'Suspension' started by maxamillion2345, Jan 6, 2011.

  1. Jan 6, 2011 at 10:43 AM
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    maxamillion2345

    maxamillion2345 [OP] Go home if you don't like guns liquor and whores.

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    After two hours at Big O (the closest shop to my house), I finally got back home with my truck.

    Got my LR UCAs installed yesterday and went in this morning to get it aligned. I explained I wanted 0* Camber and 2.4* positive Caster and that I had adjustable UCAs. No problem I was told, just gonna cost an extra $20, bringing the total to $90.

    When they were done hey handed me the sheet and keys and I was sitting at: 0.1 left 0.0 right Camber, 3.0 moved from 3.3* L and 3.1 moved from 3.3* right. ( the factory specs being 1.3-2.8). He packed all the papers up gave me my keys and was about to send me on my way when I stopped him.

    I explained this was a no go and they said that they couldn't adjust it anymore, I told them that the UCAs were adjustable from 0 to +4* of caster and that I had the ball joints sitting at +2* so what needed to happen was that the ball joint needed to be turned to +1* on either side. He cut me off and said he knew what the paper said but in the real world it would only go so far, but offered to have his tech re-try.

    Well I got it back the second time, 2 hours after I initially brought it in, and the specs are now at 2.2* L and 2.3* R caster (toe and camber are fine). Tired and ready to leave I said it was acceptable. When I got to the truck and took a look at the ball joints they hadn't touched them. They were sitting at +2* caster with the SPC logo stick out, exactly as I installed them. The steering wheel is also SLIGHTLY crooked, but I have little interest in taking it back. They also charged be an additional $20 on top of the $70 price because of the adjustable UCAs, although they never touched them.

    I only went there because the toe was way off and I didn't want to drive far and it's probably a mile from my house.

    I guess I'm just generally frustrated and wondering how they managed to squeeze and extra -.9* of caster after they told me that was the best they could do, without touching the ball joints. I'm not sure if it's possible to forge alignment sheets, I'm always very cynical I guess.

    Mostly what I want to know is, where are your ball joints sitting, if you have a lift? Also, what kind of experiences have you had? Any thoughts?

    No complaints with the UCAs obviously...
     
  2. Jan 6, 2011 at 7:14 PM
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    mwells32

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    I really don't know about the technical aspects of the uca's, but I wouldn't walk, I would run to another shop. I would NEVER have confidence things were good with my alignment. It is something I would think about every time I turned the key. Sucks that they would jerk you around like that.
     
  3. Jan 6, 2011 at 7:16 PM
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    maxamillion2345

    maxamillion2345 [OP] Go home if you don't like guns liquor and whores.

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    Yeah, I think I'm going to take it to a different Big O here and have them take a look. After looking over on the FJ cruiser forums and talking to a couple guys on TN I'm thinking the tech that worked on it was just lazy.
     
  4. Jan 6, 2011 at 7:18 PM
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    Damn, sorry to hear that. I had mine mounted today, had a 20 min interstate ride to my alignment shop, and was able to let the wheel go and it tracked true. Just minor adjustments to get mine back in factory specs.
     
  5. Jan 6, 2011 at 7:20 PM
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    maxamillion2345

    maxamillion2345 [OP] Go home if you don't like guns liquor and whores.

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    Are your ball joints set up with the SPC logo facing out and the ball joints all the way out, as far as the camber adjustment?

    Such that they're like this:

    [​IMG]

    this is apparently how the FJ guys are running theirs and getting aligned fine, it's also where I put mine. I was concerned at first I had it set up wrong but I figured Big O would change it if needed for the $90 I paid. I'm thinking now I had it right.
     
  6. Jan 6, 2011 at 7:30 PM
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    Dark here in SC. Don't know if this helps. My buddy was able to align it with only the factory adjustment points.
     
  7. Jan 6, 2011 at 7:33 PM
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    maxamillion2345

    maxamillion2345 [OP] Go home if you don't like guns liquor and whores.

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    Helps a ton! Thank you!
     
  8. Jan 7, 2011 at 12:11 PM
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    i am not trying to hijack the thread.....but... i am trying to understand. if you buy aftermarket uca's there is another adjustment that needs to be made?

    thanks,

    al
     
  9. Jan 7, 2011 at 3:40 PM
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    I have my LR UCA's set w/ the logo facing back which is making my 285's rub... even though I have my fenders cut and the cab mount done.

    My alignment is perfect w/ caster at 2.5.

    What gives? Why couldn't they align it w/ the logo facing out? This is the only way the tires won't rub.
     
  10. Jan 7, 2011 at 7:00 PM
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    you can adjust the lrucas,total caos(uni ball)and others dont have that adjustment because they are a uni ball.
     
  11. Jan 7, 2011 at 7:05 PM
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    [​IMG]mine are facing back as well,but im runing 265s
     
  12. Jan 8, 2011 at 1:08 AM
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    That sucks, bro. Sorry you had to deal with all of that.
     
  13. Jan 8, 2011 at 1:42 AM
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    same shit as everyone else
    Sucks man. I love my LR UCA's though!
     
  14. Jan 8, 2011 at 2:08 AM
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    maxamillion2345

    maxamillion2345 [OP] Go home if you don't like guns liquor and whores.

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    Driving around with them since, rides awesome! I'll take it back soon for them to fix the steering wheel.
     
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