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MAGPUL Leaving CO?

Discussion in 'Guns & Hunting' started by sammy87, Feb 18, 2013.

  1. Feb 23, 2013 at 11:49 PM
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    Colt1195

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    The new Colorado law would NOT prohibit possession of 15 rd magazines if they were owned prior to the ban's effective date.

    Since pre-ban mags dont have date stamps or serial numbers than stock up now.
     
  2. Feb 24, 2013 at 8:18 AM
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    How dumb! (but good for gun owners). What's to stop someone from driving to Wyoming, Utah, New Mexico, Kansas or Nebraska and buying a bunch and claiming they've owned them before the law took effect. The law will do nothing other than be a feather in the cap of "them".
     
  3. Feb 24, 2013 at 9:44 AM
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  4. Feb 24, 2013 at 9:48 AM
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    well of course! ...and your're right, ...this is being done for one reason, and one reason only: orthodoxy/ideology and arm twisting from nat'l ideologues... it's about scoring a political victory, and controlling people...

    ...like NY, the rural counties will probably nullify it by not complying and so will the CLEOs...
     
  5. Feb 24, 2013 at 11:21 AM
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    well the new law DOES ban and criminalize importation of 15 rd magazines after the implimentation date so you dont want to get caught doing that.

    however, if you assert your right to remain silent and dont answer questions then just like here in California, its nearly impossible for the government goonz to prove where and when the magazines entered the state and prosecution becomes very difficult.
     
  6. Feb 24, 2013 at 8:21 PM
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    Shhh.. this is a well known flaw of the bill. Let's not post such things on public forums to give them ample time to amend the bill to correct these oversights.
     
  7. Feb 24, 2013 at 8:22 PM
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    Yeah, that dude is awesome.
     
  8. Feb 24, 2013 at 10:19 PM
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    its not a worry. the lawmakers knew it would be impossible to have a retroactive ban. even ultra gun grabbing california knew it.

    its all going to be temporary though because there is a very good chance SCOTUS will strike down magazine capacity limits.
     
  9. Feb 24, 2013 at 10:28 PM
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    We shall see. They just upheld a ruling that a citizens right to conceal carry isn't upheld by the 2nd amendment. The SCOTUS isn't really where I want to hang my hopes when it comes to firearms these days.
     
  10. Feb 24, 2013 at 10:31 PM
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    I think Texas would be a great home for MagPul!
     
  11. Feb 24, 2013 at 11:51 PM
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    Thats completly wrong. The 7th circuit just overturned Illinios ban on concealed carry permits in Moore vs Madigan.

    http://www.ca7.uscourts.gov/tmp/Q31FFRZF.pdf

    That case is now most likely going to the SCOTUS and most people believe they will uphold the decision.

    When you consider the Heller decision and McDonald decision the SCOTUS is pretty much kicking ass for the 2nd Amendment in the last 4 years.
     
  12. Feb 25, 2013 at 12:06 AM
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    The circular graphic is manufature date on Pmags
    [​IMG]
     
  13. Feb 25, 2013 at 7:27 AM
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    You should check your own facts before calling someone 'completely wrong' because in this case I'm completely right.

    Federal court says concealed handgun permits not protected by the 2nd Amendment.

    This was a Colorado case that was appealed and failed on Friday. This thread is a discussion about Colorado and it's pending bills. How am I 'completely wrong' again?
     
  14. Feb 25, 2013 at 8:43 AM
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    Sorry, you are not "completely wrong", you are just "mostly wrong". That case basically has no significance because it dealt with the narrow issue of non resident concealed carry permits.
     
  15. Feb 25, 2013 at 8:45 AM
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    wrent those the magazines made during the period where date stamps were required ?
     
  16. Feb 25, 2013 at 8:55 AM
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    Read it again because the basis of the ruling was what I said several times... The 10th circuit court stated very clearly: The right to conceal carry was NOT protected by the 2nd amendment.
     
  17. Feb 25, 2013 at 8:56 AM
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    No, Pmags didn't exist during the AWB which expired in 2004 and the Pmag debuted at SHOT show in 2007.
     
  18. Feb 25, 2013 at 9:35 AM
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    I havent read the entire ruling yet but I have read the analysis of it and I have been familiar with this case for awhile.

    http://www.ca10.uscourts.gov/opinions/11/11-1149.pdf

    We now have split circuit courts (10th vs 7th) in regards to rulings on concealed carry. This makes it more likely that SCOTUS will hear the issue and thats a good thing.

    My original post on this issue was a response to your statement that you have little faith in SCOTUS.

    The current court is probably the most gun rights friendly court America has ever had. There is no other way to view Heller and McDonald except as major victories for gun rights and the 2nd Amendment.

    This is the court that is going to hear the concealed carry issue.

    There is a 80% chance they will rule in favor of concealed carry permits.
     
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  19. Feb 26, 2013 at 4:49 AM
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    How about Louisiana? Tim
     
  20. Feb 26, 2013 at 5:18 PM
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    update for those interested

    This was posted on MAGPUL's facebook page. Good move in my opinion. Couldn't find anything about it on their website.

    http://www.facebook.com/magpul/posts/565350306810656

    "We are proud to announce that within a matter of days we will be going live with a new program. Due to a bill currently moving through the Colorado legislature, there is the possibility that Colorado residents' ability to purchase standard capacity magazines will soon be infringed. Before that happens, and Magpul is forced to leave the state in order to keep to our principles, we will be doing our best to get standard capacity PMAGs into the hands of any Colorado resident that wants them.

    Verified Colorado residents will be able to purchase up to ten (10) standard capacity AR/M4 magazines directly from Magpul, and will be given immediate flat-rate $5 shipping, bypassing our current order queue.

    Our customers outside of Colorado, please know that our PMAG production will continue at an ever-increasing rate until we do relocate, shipments to our distributors in other states will continue, and that we do not expect relocation to significantly impact PMAG production. We are also aware that Colorado is not the only state with existing or pending magazine capacity restrictions; we are working on programs for other affected states as well.

    Full details and instructions will be announced when we are able to go live; please watch here for the coming announcement."
     
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