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manual locking hubs for 2nd gen???

Discussion in 'Technical Chat' started by MotoXdoer, Aug 17, 2010.

  1. Aug 17, 2010 at 9:49 PM
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    does anyone know if there are any companies that make a man hub kit to eliminate auto locking hubs/add?
     
  2. Aug 17, 2010 at 9:52 PM
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    not that I know of.
     
  3. Aug 17, 2010 at 9:53 PM
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    Nope. You have a central axle disconnect.
     
  4. Aug 17, 2010 at 9:59 PM
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    it has to be possible. 96-04 tacos had a kit. people on ttora arent too friendly..........
     
  5. Aug 17, 2010 at 10:00 PM
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    please chime in chris
     
  6. Aug 17, 2010 at 10:03 PM
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    There isn't a kit and most likely won't be. It's not cost effective for manufactures.
     
  7. Aug 17, 2010 at 10:05 PM
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    thats because the 95.5 - 2000 came stock with manual hubs (well, it was an option). This means the spindles can be taken from one of those years and used on an '01-'04. 05+ never had manual hubs.
     
  8. Aug 17, 2010 at 10:07 PM
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    are the hubs the same from a first gen?? i saw a kit on a 02 dcab taco. this guy has camburg long travel with manual locking hubs. its possible
     
  9. Aug 18, 2010 at 4:57 AM
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    again, thats an '02, totally different from the '05+...
     
  10. Aug 18, 2010 at 5:18 AM
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    No, the axle shafts are larger on a second gen.
     
  11. Aug 18, 2010 at 5:40 AM
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    Seriously, here is something to consider. The main purpose of a manual hub conversion is to guard against CV boot wear on suspension lifted trucks, and maybe some wear and tear on some components. But you aren't really "wearing" anything since there is no power being applied in 2wd. It's free wheeling.

    Look at how much one of these kits cost for the 1st Gen, over $1000. Are you willing to pay +$1000 for a kit that really only protects CV boots (if one exsisted)? Do you realize you can get the entire half shaft (from differential to hub) for less than $100? And CV boots are $10-20max? You would have to go through (replace) the half shafts 15 times or the CV boots 75-150 times in order to make a manual hub kit cost effective.

    I think people realized this and that's why no one offers a kit for the 2nd gens.
     
  12. Aug 18, 2010 at 6:47 AM
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    Also manual kit was for those that wanted run auto lockers on the front, or things like truetrac
     
  13. Aug 18, 2010 at 6:50 AM
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    You can run those without manaul hubs in the front.
     
  14. Aug 18, 2010 at 7:08 AM
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    I moded 1999 Taco so much it had turned to Land Cruiser
    Truetrac was only for manual hubs, atleast last time I asked Eaton, (2 years ago) If eaton got that workign After I sold my pickup I am going to be upset :D
     
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    Some say "It's not recommended". I have never seen any vendor or Eaton for that matter say that the Truetrac specify it was for manual hubs only. I find this interesting because none of their literature (that I can find anyway) states that also. In no way am I "calling you out" or calling you a liar. I just think this is good topic for discussion. :eek:
     
  16. Aug 18, 2010 at 8:06 AM
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    Any LSD up front should be fine in the Tacoma.
     
  17. Aug 18, 2010 at 8:22 AM
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    I moded 1999 Taco so much it had turned to Land Cruiser
    There are like 1000 threads on TTORA 1 gen Tacoma about that.
    here is one.
    http://www.ttora.com/forum/showthread.php?t=29496
    I called Eaton when I wanted to put Truetrac on the front of my 99 and they said its manual hubs only (as if Non-ADD);). I was looking for parts to convert to manual hubs but Toyota bought back the truck before hand :rolleyes:
    Another thread with even more info
    http://www.ttora.com/forum/showthread.php?t=85500&highlight=Truetrac
     
  18. Aug 18, 2010 at 9:30 AM
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    Great info BlueT. So it appears to be a design difference between the diffs which won't allow you to use a TT in the ADD diff.

    I found a recent Eaton catalog (6/10) here. On page 8 it gives the available TT's for all Toyota's axles, front and rear. I did notice under the 4 cyl front section a 7.5 TT (911A644) that doesn't have the "t" designation next to it for the years 1995-2004. The "t" meaning "will not fit selector disconnect" or ADD. Is that posibbly a Hilux application?




     
  19. Aug 18, 2010 at 9:59 AM
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    Hmm maybe they finally got to making ADD Truetrac, too bad most of 1 gen's got crushed :D
    Great timing, so we should get 2 gen truetrac some time in year 2020 :rolleyes: ha ha
     
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    Yep, two days after the 4th gens come out I reckon......
     
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