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Manual Transmission offroading and sand.

Discussion in 'Off-Roading & Trails' started by hiddenkirby, Jan 5, 2010.

  1. Jan 5, 2010 at 11:10 AM
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    I like to take my tacoma down to the outerbanks in NC. I have a great time taking it out on the Sand. I lower the pressure to 20 psi and have at it.

    sometimes when i have it in 4wd high ... i smell my clutch :( yet when i pop it into 4wd low everything seems easier... but that doesnt seem right. i thought low was for towing stuff.

    i think im missing something stupid or fundamental here.

    am i doing something wrong? which is better for sand? which is better for snow?

    sorry for the total newb questions.
     
  2. Jan 5, 2010 at 11:13 AM
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    Low isn't soley for towing or for towing onroad. It's for crawling up real soft/slippery hills.
    When you say "makes everything easier" what do you mean??
     
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    I will be there in July. Our family has been vacationing there just about every summer since I was a little baby and my mom has been going since she was a kid.

    We will be staying in Corolla this year so I will probably take the taco up to 4x4 territory. Do you usually go to the inlet? or Corolla and corova beach?
     
  4. Jan 5, 2010 at 11:22 AM
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    meaning i move forward without any issues ... ive never gotten stuck in the tacoma (knock on wood) ... and mainly not smelling like im frying my clutch.

    its just more difficult in high on a manual. is it the way i shift? or is low just a better choice and i should just stick with that?
     
  5. Jan 5, 2010 at 11:23 AM
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    we stay in Avon. Favorite place to go on vacation in all the US and A.
     
  6. Jan 5, 2010 at 11:28 AM
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    My guess is your shifts are what is hurt you. If you don't get the smell in 4LO- stick with it- Just make sure you understand what configuration your truck is in and what that means. You should be able to get it to work in either mode tho.

    The only time I used 4LO in my Dakota was to pull myself out of a stuck as I transitioned from wet packed sand to dry loose sand where someone else dug in.
     
  7. Jan 5, 2010 at 11:31 AM
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    see i think that is my issue. i dont understand the configuration and what it means. maybe im just over complicating this. 4hi is for non-slippery situations like wetter more packed sand. and 4lo will be for dry deep slippery sand.

    i think i got my answer. you rock btw. ty.
     
  8. Jan 5, 2010 at 11:34 AM
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    I hope it helps...and I'm sure there will be more folks who will chime in with varied opinions about uses for 4HI and 4LO.

    Some folks use 2WD for sand- There is a lot of different ways to drive...
     
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    it does and thank you.

    i think it totally depends on the sand.
     
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    2nd gen. i assume it was something i was doing shifting.
     
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    sadly no... usually going from stop to first. should i skip first?
     
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    but generally my issue is going from stop to 1st. its a 2007 tacoma. no way i could have destroyed the clutch that easily already. if i ride the clutch too little i stall out. the happy medium is difficult.
     
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    My guess is riding the clutch. Once you get moving in first gear (especially in either 4hi or 4lo) take your foot all the way off of the clutch until you need to shift. If you stall you stall. I only use 4lo if I need a fair amount of torque or if I am "crawling". For sand I usually keep it in 4hi so you can maintain a higher speed with out the super high RPM's.
     
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    How long have you had the truck? When I teach people how to drive a manual I sit them in the parking lot and have them shift into 1st and keep their foot off the gas, then have them SLOWLY let off the clutch to find the sweet spot. Try that and find the happy medium spot you need.
     
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    i bought it new in 2007. rarely ever had a problem. except for beach sand.

    too bad its winter and i cant go but once or twice year.
     
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    im going in may! cant wait.
     
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    I have the same problem Driwing in sand as well. I figured Its because I have 4bangerI do not have enough torque to get me moving in deep sand. What you guys think about that.
     
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    I run 4 lo in the sand when I drive in Salvo on 12 and in the Oregon inlet. I run 4hi in Corolla because the sand is much more packed than down near Salvo. The 4lo puts much less strain on the engine and it also will let you take a break from using the clutch so much.
     
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    When driving on the street in 2hi the clutch allows the truck to move easier because you have gobs of traction. with slick conditions it takes more slipping the cluch to move the truck to prevent spinning of the wheels. its normal but if you can smell it your slipping the clutch way to much. in 4hi you dont have toi worry as much about spinning the tires so be more aggressive with the clutch...

    4lo is for getting the power to the ground when the gearing of 4hi is too high. has nothing to do with surface or traction as much as it has to do with speed desired or angle of terrain.
     
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