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Manually locking up the torque converter

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas' started by S.B., Oct 19, 2012.

  1. Oct 19, 2012 at 7:54 PM
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    Has anyone ever done something like thing on our A750 trans? How well does this tranny respond to this?

    I've been researching valve body upgrades and came across a company called West Coast Cruisers. They sell a "kit" that with a flip of a switch will lock up/keep the torque converter locked up, but they want over $200. http://www.westcoastcruisers.com/transfer.php

    I think I have figured the wiring out for this, just need me a relay.

    I figure this would really help towing and goin slow down hill.
     
  2. Oct 19, 2012 at 8:00 PM
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    what are the benefits of this? and are the potential benefits worth 200 bucks?
     
  3. Oct 19, 2012 at 8:05 PM
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    My thinking is:
    -Less heat build up from the torque converter, especially when going slow and loaded up.
    -Can control down hill speed, like a manual, better


    I wouldn't buy the "kit". I would do it my self for like $30

    I'm just wondering if anyone has done this and if anyone thinks there would be adverse effects?

    I know on the older dodge diesel auto, you had to do this kind of mod unless you wanted to replace the tranny all the time.
     
  4. Oct 19, 2012 at 8:13 PM
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    That kit looks like a $5 rocker switch wired to a $3 relay...


    Interested to hear more about the principle. It would help with gas mileage too I would think. (highway)
     
  5. Oct 19, 2012 at 8:15 PM
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    exactly.

    I just wonder if anyone here has done it. I've been searching other forums (IH8MUD, TTORA, XRU, and here), but have come up with nada.
     
  6. Oct 19, 2012 at 8:17 PM
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    4.10 gears, sliders, and lots of buttons.
    The tranny not only locks and unlocks, but can achieve different levels of "lock up" in gears 3 thru 5. Toyota seems to have gotten it right, so I cant see a reason to mess with it.
     
  7. Oct 19, 2012 at 8:22 PM
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    Chris, as always, is right on the money with this one.

    "If it ain't broke, don't fix it."
     
  8. Oct 19, 2012 at 8:29 PM
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    U think their would be any adverse effects?
     
  9. Oct 19, 2012 at 8:32 PM
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    so this would lock the transmission into one gear and not let it shift? that has the potential to be awesome...
     
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    No, it's just preventing the transmission from releasing into a coast.

    The transmission will constantly be engaged to the drive-train.
     
  11. Oct 19, 2012 at 8:37 PM
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    4.10 gears, sliders, and lots of buttons.
    I dont know. There could be.
     
  12. Oct 19, 2012 at 8:41 PM
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    No, just so it "acts" like a manual in a sense. It locks the converter so that it will not do partal shifts, it will stil shift.
     
  13. Oct 19, 2012 at 8:42 PM
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    well our downhill assist BS is practically the same thing. i actually think its obnoxious when i tap my brakes going downhill and it shifts down on me instead of coasting.
     
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    I can see there some if its used incorrectly, but my intensions are going down hill and towing, except for starts.
     
  15. Oct 19, 2012 at 8:45 PM
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    But this has the potential to acctually slow the truck down, unlike now where it may down shift but unlocked which does not slow it much, just builds a lot of heat (I think). I'll be installing my tranny temp gauge this week and I'll check on the temps.
     
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    could you just leave it locked all the time?
     
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    I don't think so, cause from starts or coming to a stop, I think it would stall.
     
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    Slow and loaded up, the TCC is not locked anyways.
    Depends on the vehicle, but most will only lock in direct and overdrive... some of the 5 and 6 speeds will lock in 3rd or 4th, but under any moderate load at all, it unlocks.
    Locking under those conditions is going to be hard on the driveline.

    Downhill speed control is a benefit, but the 2nd Gen system is already pretty tight... I don't think the TCC is unlocking.
     
  19. Oct 19, 2012 at 10:46 PM
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    With going slow, ya the tc is not locked thus creating a lot of heat.


    I don't believe that the tc is ever locked with down shifting to control down hill speed.

    But I think I might tackle this this weekend. I'll update this as I learn more about it.
     
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