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Maybe a problem with changing my belts...

Discussion in '1st Gen. Tacomas (1995-2004)' started by cbogartjr, Sep 17, 2010.

  1. Sep 17, 2010 at 4:40 AM
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    Hi, I am new to this forum. however I have a classic Olds 442 and use that forum a lot. I also have a great 1995 Toyota Tacoma I purchased in 1997. It has just turned 100K so I thought I woud change the belts. This turned into a nightmare. Rusted and broken tension bolts, etc. My question is; when replacing the alternator belt the rear bottom engine pully is quite loose. In fact it fell on top of the a/c pully. I pushed it back and put the belt (very difficult as it was super tight) on and it seems tight against the rear again. Is this normal? or Is there some additional work I need to do? Thanks for your help......By the way I really like this forum...great work!!!
     
  2. Sep 17, 2010 at 5:06 AM
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    NOT NORMAL!!!!! Is this a 4 cylinder motor? Also, you are referring to the crankshaft pulley, correct?
     
  3. Sep 17, 2010 at 5:14 AM
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    This is the 3rz 2.7L motor (see attached image).

    The red indicates the crank pulley. It is a two piece design that can come apart.

    CrankPulley-1_36bef6da3d7a8c9f4e1c6068f8283cc2bf1eba39.jpg

    The blue area is accesory pulleys. They are bolted onto the crank pulley.

    3rz.jpg
     
  4. Sep 17, 2010 at 5:24 AM
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    That's exactly it!!! where can I get a replacement? Do I have to go to Toyota? Thanks for the great help..
     
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    The torque for the 3rz crank pulley is 193 ft/lbs.
     
  7. Sep 17, 2010 at 8:02 AM
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    Hey, is this pully a harmonic balancer also???
     
  8. Sep 17, 2010 at 8:08 AM
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    No, the 3rz has balance shafts built into the motor.
     
  9. Sep 18, 2010 at 10:37 AM
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    Help!!!!!!OK...I got the part...the parts house has it labled as a harmonic balancer..it isn't. Even the parts guy said it wasn't...I am trying to get the pully off. I have a 2.7 automatic. I put the truck in reverse and when I put torque on my breaker the engine turns over. I have blocks in the back and front of the wheels...truck doesn't move, but the engine still turns as I try to get the main bolt out. How do I hold the pully from turning while I get the bolt out. Also, once the bolt is out how hard is it to get the pully off the crank? What is the best way? Wheel puller??? Thanks so much for all your help....
     
  10. Sep 18, 2010 at 10:39 AM
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    belt wrench or a specialized tool.
     
  11. Sep 18, 2010 at 2:40 PM
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    OK...I have been at trying to remove the pully bolt...man o man...here's what I have done...I made a tool that bolts into two of the 8mm pully bolts out of steel...It was long enough so that the end of the tool rested on the front frame. This way no one would have to hold the tool while I cranked on the bolt...heated the bolt almost red and cranked on it with a breaker bar with a pipe on the end of it. I'm a 6' 5", 260 lb guy and I really pulled with all my strength and weight...ripped the bolt heads right off the metal tool. Broke them off right at the base. So, I then drilled a hole through the side of the pully a large enough hole to put a 3/8 inch tapered punch. The punch was long enough to (15" with a crowbar like handle) reach the upper take up pully bracket for support....heated until almost red...with breaker bar and pipe torqued on it again...this time the punch broke and the pully almost cracked in half...I am at a loss now...got any thoughts on how I might get this bolt off??? I guess my next step may be to remove the front of the truck and use my impact wrench. I have a new bumper I am going to put on, so it's just am matter of taking the radiator out and removing the grill ad bumper...Humm..to think all I wanted to do was replace the belts...an hour ot two job...right.
     
  12. Sep 18, 2010 at 6:14 PM
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    As a last resort before pulling the from end off your truck to get a impact on that bolt you might try his from ttora.com:

    " you can put a wrench on the bolt, put a pipe on the wrench and tie it to the frame. Bump the motor with the starter and it will break free. This method works for the 3.4, so if the 2.7 rotates the same way and the threads are normal, it should work just fine..."

    Disable the ignition so that the engine won't start.
     
  13. Sep 19, 2010 at 12:25 PM
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    Thank you Vince!!!! I was a little nervous, but I tried it. First push off the bolt came. Now off to find a chain wrench to put the new pully on! Thanks you so much for your help. And I even learned something...Thanks
     

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