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MetalMiller Garage HELP!

Discussion in 'Garage / Workshop' started by MetalMiller, Jul 24, 2011.

  1. Jul 24, 2011 at 8:55 PM
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    MetalMiller

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    Hey guys, I am about to start work on a Metalmiller Garage/Workshop so I have a legit place to work on my parts and do some serious R&D for future products. I have some ideas, but I would really like some ideas or pics for how to set this bad boy up. It's a 2 car seperated garage and has lots of potential. I'll pull some measurements and take some pics when I get it cleaned out.
     
  2. Jul 26, 2011 at 10:32 AM
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    I've decided to rip out the sheetrock and put some insulation and some fresh sheets up there. I need to resurface the concrete, but I'm unsure how to finish it. I was thinking either stain or an epoxy coating. Any suggestions?
     
  3. Jul 26, 2011 at 10:33 AM
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    x2. Id'd do this if my floor weren't so hosed to start with.

    Since you're pulling the sheetrock, now would be a good time to run more Romex for additional outlets/lights.
     
  5. Jul 26, 2011 at 10:55 AM
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    Good idea! I have tons of outlets around, but I could use a bit more for maybe some mounted fans and switches. And possibly a TV later down the road :)

    Any brand suggestions for the epoxy?
     
  6. Jul 26, 2011 at 11:17 AM
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    I bought the pro grade Rustoleum stuff at a big box store. It was like $35 and covered 200sq feet depending on how thick you ran it. It's a dull grey color but comes with pretty blue,white,black sprinkles to gussy it up some. I added some dried playground sand that I stole from my kids and mixed it in the batch for texture. A year of normal use later and it still looks brand new. I've heard that even 5-7 years of normal-heavy use it holds up well. The problem will be treating the slab before you apply the epoxy, it'll need to be either acid washed or power washed to make sure it's clean.
     
  7. Jul 26, 2011 at 11:22 AM
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    In my garage I did several 30amp double gang boxes around the barn, I split the boxes, left on all boxes is seperate breaker from right of all boxes. So I can run 2 good sized pieces of equipment on the same box without it being on the same breaker ;)
     
  8. Jul 26, 2011 at 11:25 AM
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    How many 30 amp pieces of equipment do you have?
    Air compressor, what else?
     
  9. Jul 26, 2011 at 11:28 AM
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    it's all about surface prep. i used to do epoxy coatings years ago. im not sure how good the stuff is that's sold by the harware stores, we used stuff meant to resist corrosive chemicals at the chem plants.

    we used a machine that would take off about 1/8" of concrete while creating a rough and poruous surface for the primer to bond too. you should be able to rent one at an equipment rental place. we would then throw medium grit sand into the epoxy (2nd coat). let it dry, sweep off the excess and apply a top coat. gave the floor a surface to prevent slipping.
     
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    If you have a lot of heavy metal materials and are rough on your floors, I would think twice about epoxy, especially if you're going to do it yourself. The heavy duty commercial grades are tough but DIY it's tough to get that kind of durability. Plus, epoxies can chip if you drop a piece of metal or a heavy tool.

    Have you thought about rolled rubber flooring? It's not overly cheap but is nice to work on if you're on your feet all day (softer), will not chip, crack, dent, etc, cleans up well and is very durable. You could also just cut sheets to fit around work areas if you didn't want to cover the entire area.
     
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    I would be afraid of it ever catching on fire, what about just resurfacing with cement? you can get the mix at the Depot and rent the mixer.
     
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    plasti-dip
     
  13. Jul 26, 2011 at 12:32 PM
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    you mean concrete. cement would just be dusty :D
     
  14. Jul 26, 2011 at 5:20 PM
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    Good stuff so far, I'll probably use some kind of rubber to throw down when I'm working in on area and would keep it all enough to stow away. If it was there all the time I'd probably burn through it or melt it down in no time.

    I have plenty of time to do the necessary prep work so epoxy is sounding pretty good right now.

    What are the downsides of staining the concrete after a good resurface?
     
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    * keep it small enough*

    Damn iPhone keyboard
     
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    Staining doesn't offer any protection, only looks. Other than that, no downsides I can think of
     
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    hey metalmiller, don't mean to jack your thread but do you have any transformer emblem for sale, like the one you made for mr bakerla. I saw it the other day and want one too. my kid loves that emblem.
     
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    Another thing to consider about the epoxy is if you'll be welding a lot in the space. From the various readings I've done, it doesn't hold up well to molten metal.
     
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    If you are open to laying a concrete topping, there are some incredible color hardeners that can be added to the mix or finished in the surface. It would give you the stained color but would also create a much much harder surface to resist chips, marring and cracking. They are very common in industrial applications (at least around here).

    That was my concern with epoxy...
     
  20. Aug 1, 2011 at 8:08 AM
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    Good ideas, I'll do some research on the color hardeners. You happen to have a favorite brand or a link?

    I took some pics of the "before" but will have to load them later since I left my cable at home. I'm planning on insulating the walls this week. A/C is starting to sound really nice about now.

    Sam- no problem at all! If you are interested in ordering an emblem just shoot Travis an email at info@emblemart.com and he'll get you all setup with the order and I can start production as soon as the work order comes through!
     
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