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Michelin LTX A/T2 or LTX M/S2

Discussion in 'Wheels & Tires' started by MJonesTrumpet, Aug 3, 2010.

  1. Oct 24, 2012 at 9:22 AM
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    I just kept my stock dunlop, I figure if I get a flat I'll only drive on the spare far enough to get me to a tire shop. It's no different and actually probably a lot better than driving on one of those ridiculous donuts that passenger cars have for spares. Next time I need a new set of tires I'll probably upgrade and get 5 and then start rotating in the spare when I rotate tires.
     
  2. Oct 24, 2012 at 9:33 AM
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    Thats kinda how I felt about it. I figure if a car can go for a few hundred miles on those crappy donuts, I'd be fine with a full size spare thats just slightly smaller. Im kinda curious how much smaller. I'm going to be checking my air levels today, and making sure the spare tire is aired up. I'll roll it next to my M/S2s and see how much of a difference they really are. Post with a pic to come!:)
     
  3. Oct 24, 2012 at 10:32 AM
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    No need for a picture. There is only the slightest, and I mean barely even noticeable,difference in size. I would have to makesure my truck is on a level surface, and line the spare JUST right, to see theactual difference, which is negligible. However, I found out that I severely hate the spare tire loweringsystem. Like, enough that I'm going tonow look for some form of swing out spare tire gate that goes on the outside ofmy tail gate that won’t interfere with the back-up camera. That thing sucks.
     
  4. Oct 24, 2012 at 10:36 AM
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    LTX M/S2 is the next tire I will be purchasing after my BFG Rugged Terrains wear out. From everyone I've talked to, they are the best highway / light off road tire you can buy.
     
  5. Oct 24, 2012 at 7:59 PM
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    This may have already answered, but did anyone notice any difference in MPG when they went up in tire size? 70 to 75?
     
  6. Oct 24, 2012 at 8:03 PM
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    yeah, 1-2 mpg depending on driving habits and how you air them up.
     
  7. Oct 25, 2012 at 10:35 AM
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    The last 3 times I changed to (1 time to) LTX-AT2s and (2 times to) LTX-MS2s ... I kept the spare OEM.

    FWIW ... and from my personal experiences ... the AT2s look meaner ... but the MS2s actually do better in the rain, snow and hard surfaces like concrete and blacktop (hot or cold). The AT2s are probably better in loose dirt though, but I did not go off road.

    The extreme outside corners on the AT2s tend to wear quickly if you corner hard with the front tires on concrete & blacktop. IMO, the AT2s are softer rubber too.

    You can't go wrong with either tire ... but the MS2s will be my next choice for my type of driving.

    PS ... When I went to MS2s and kept them at 33 - 35 PSI... I got a little better mileage than OEM tires at 33 - 35 PSI.

    EDIT: For my birthday ... tonight (10-25-2012) I ordered 4 Michelin LTX-MS2s on COSTCO.com .. "On Sale" .. 4 tires = 265-70-16 was $845.96 OTD. (sale = $70.00 off)... :D

    So, I will be selling my 4 almost new OEM BFG tires cheap ($200.00 local Atlanta pickup, list is about $700.00) they have about 3,700 miles (today) and not a curb mark on them and I drive like your grandma going to church. Will post pics in the sales area when Michelins are mounted next week and BFGs are "officially" for sale. ... :D
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  8. Nov 17, 2012 at 11:39 AM
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    Well I'm finally a fellow Michelin LTX-M/S2 owner. Just had them installed this morning. Didn't do too bad, with a $70 rebate & 5% military discount it totaled $762 OTD. Now bring on winter...
     
  9. Nov 17, 2012 at 2:53 PM
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    ... ^^^ ... Excellent price you got from D/T, EXCELLENT ... I just got 4 --- 265-70-16 and they were about $80.00 more at COSTCO with the Michelin $70.00 off.

    FWIW ... mine work best at 33 PSI ... you will love those tires ... especially in the rain ... :D
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  10. Nov 17, 2012 at 3:03 PM
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    i second this. you will also love the peace and quiet of zero tire noise...
     
  11. Nov 20, 2012 at 6:21 AM
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    "^^^ ... Excellent price you got from D/T, EXCELLENT ... "

    Yes, I'm really happy with the price, and so far the ride is awesome. I actually didn't get them from D/T though. I got them from a local chain called Tireman. I called around and they were the cheapest. Sam's Club gave me about the same price that COSTCO gave you.

    Unfortunately I already had to have the rear tires replaced. There were little cracks around the edge of both tires deep enough that you could see the white rubber underneath, :mad:. But they replaced them without question or hesitation.:D
     
  12. Dec 27, 2012 at 9:17 AM
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    So..... Is anyone else having the m/s2 tires crack??

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    How is everyone doing in the snow?
     
  13. Dec 27, 2012 at 2:48 PM
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    I have the "cracks" and one of the local dealers refused to fix a flat for my wife because of it :eek:...His loss....guy 5 minutes further into town has ALL my business now..1st guy has no CSR whatever....tried to sell her 4 instead of dealing with one...

    These things wear like iron ( this set has over 50k) and thats the problem...the age out before wear out :p....the current set is on an '07 Ridgeline and will make another NH winter :)...

    The Ridgeline will NEVER see anything BUT Michelins for that reason....
     
  14. Jan 5, 2013 at 8:12 PM
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    I have a 2011 Sport Double Cab 4x4 and bought the Michelin LTX A/T2s (P265,65R17) from Discount Tires in Casa Grande, Arizona on December 15th, 2012. The tires handled like a dream on the desert roads to Box Canyon and handled excellent in the snow going on the Montana Mountain Trail by Superior.

    The problem is they ride a little "hard" and produce a little vibration through the steering wheel and thru the floor boards on the pavement and My Wife Does Not Like It!

    If you've been married as long as I have, you should know "Happy Wife, Happy Life". (Yes, I am a man, and I have a pair, but yes, I'm l a little Pussy Whipped).

    Taking advantage of Michelin's 30 day Customer Satisfaction, January 3rd, I took them back to Discount Tires (Excellent Service!) and they put on a new set of the Michelin LTX MS2s. I have to say, I Love These Tires and now my wife is Happy!

    If you drive alot of Off-Road, the AT2s are excellent. If you're mostly on the road the MS2s are the ticket. Good luck with your purchase... Walt
     
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    Vibaration? Sounds like a balance issue. My AT2s don't vibrate at any speed. And I'm on pavement 95% of the time.
     
  16. Jan 6, 2013 at 7:44 AM
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    Hello,
    While there are a lot of replies to this Michelin thread already, I wanted to throw in my 2 cents. I just put on a set of 4 LTX M/S2's on my '09 Tacoma, they replaced the OEM Bridgestone Duellers at 37,900 miles. I did have 6-7/32 of tread remaining but the OEM tires just went South as far as harsh ride, unpredictable steering, noise, did I say NOISE, etc. I had my alignment checked about 3 months ago, only a minor toe adjustment needed on the driver front. Best tire decision I ever made on a car or truck I have owned. You will pay for these, maybe more than you like to pay for tires but between the posts on this forum and feedback from fellow owners here where I live, they last, and last. If you are on the fence, get the LTX M/S2's and don't look back.
     
  17. Jan 6, 2013 at 8:02 AM
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    I'm running them on my 02 4x4 xtra cab. They are great in rain, decent in New England snow. Duratracs or true snow tires would be better, but I can't really complain. They do really well for an all season/highway tire. Aired down they do pretty decent off road. Nothing spectacular, but I was able to climb a few steep, loose rock and boulder covered trails with good spotting, that I didn't think i'd be able to make a quarter of the way up at first. I'd recommend them for daily driver use.
     
  18. Jan 6, 2013 at 7:55 PM
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    ... ^^^ ... Ditto ... FWIW ... My LTX-AT2s on my last Tacoma were a dream ... no issues at all.

    I switched to LTX-MS2s on present Tacoma for a little better wet traction and I do no off roading too. MS2s are best for my driving style at this point. AT2s look meaner than the MS2s ... and MS2s look like your Grannies tires on her Crown Vic, but I don't care.

    BOTH are super tires and it is a toss up on which to buy ... love those tires ... :D

    Oh, if you ever wanted a "super sticky tire" (wears fast though with soft rubber compound) the Michelin Pilot is a super handling tire.
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  19. Jan 8, 2013 at 1:55 PM
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    I just put a set of LTX M/S2's on as well. I've always had good luck with Michelins. With these, ride, handling, and noise level are much improved over the stock tires. I went up to 265/70-16 from the stock 245/75's. They're nearly the same diameter so the speedometer difference is negligible, but I think they look a bit better.

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  20. Jan 21, 2013 at 12:41 PM
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    Sub'd. Almost wish I hadn't found such a steal of a deal on my Dynapros after reading all this. In a few years, these will be my DD tires :)

    (and I'll finally get some 255/85-16s for wheeling :D)
     

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