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Mid Travel BS 2.0

Discussion in 'Suspension' started by 2ndGenJonny, Jan 12, 2016.

  1. Jun 9, 2021 at 9:28 PM
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    snowsk8air2

    snowsk8air2 how hard can it be?

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    Well double that is what I’m running. They say don’t go over 300psi which is a little concerning as things heat up like my shocks do lol. But yeah, this is the internet and I need to know what’s going to make my truck perfect right now!!!
     
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    The problem you have is lack of volume. A 2.5" rear shock for the amount of work your truck is doing isn't going to give the durability you want and a single shock up front is also going to be a downfall.
     
  3. Jun 9, 2021 at 9:37 PM
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    snowsk8air2

    snowsk8air2 how hard can it be?

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    Yup. Hence the desire to add either a 2.5 or 3.0 bypass up front and upgrade to a 3.0 out back. Not sure that ads does finned resi. Don’t think they do which would be a nice compliment to keeping the rear a single shock for at least a few years
     
  4. Jun 9, 2021 at 9:56 PM
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    For what you do, a 3.0 up front for sure. Not sure about the finned resi. The concept doesn't make a ton of sense to me in the first place. Money better spent elsewhere IMO. I'd be curious to actually see some data on the topic though. Not just "influencers" talking about shit they know nothing about.
     
  5. Jun 9, 2021 at 10:06 PM
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    snowsk8air2 how hard can it be?

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    2.5 vs 3.0 will come down to valving and vehicle weight up front I think. Don’t want to not be able to push enough fluid for the 3.0. My heat transfer classes tonight me things that make me somewhat skeptical on the finned resi thing as well. Technically, the reservoir should only be filled with nitrogen which is not affected by heat as much as the shock oil. The nitrogen is there to keep the shock piston from cavitating in the oil as it cycles quickly. So without having any data or doing any math, the theory behind it says having a finned shock body I would guess would be at least 10x more beneficial than having a finned resi. So one more drink and then save your money on not doing finned resi?
     
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    There's a lot to consider when talking about what size shock to run. The key idea is finding a balance to increase your oil capacity and have the range of valving required to tune the vehicle. A lot of it comes down to how the vehicle is used too, therefore generating more or less heat.

    Agreed. You also have to look at the basic concept of how a shock works. As the shock is stroked, the shaft displaces fluid into the resi. That same fluid is then forced back into the shock body via the IFP, but there is really no circulation. So even when looking at the general concept of a finned resi, which is to increase surface area and more effectively dissipate heat, the fluid that you're trying to cool is only in the resi for milliseconds at a time and not well circulated. So you're not effectively cooling the same fluid? o_O

    Again, I'm no engineer so I could be WAY mistaken on the concept. I'm trying to draw a dummy image.
     
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    I thought it was pretty crazy that radflo specs their shocks at 200 psi.
     
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    All I can say is I’m already looking at shock upgrades and I don’t even have my front shock setup yet. My first trip to the Johnson valley whoops with my new JDfab +4 front and just the fox coilovers up front and my king 16 inch triples in the rear, the shocks got smoking hot…as in 3rd degree burn hot. Hopefully when my King coilovers and bypasses show up in September for my front that will alleviate some of the heat. Otherwise My first change will be putting 3.0s on the rear.
     
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    if everybody donates money to me i will purchase coilovers from every brand and il let you guys know which ones are the best. sound like a plan?
     
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    That’s standard spec for Fox and others. Icon is 250 psi on their IFP to prevent cavitation.
     
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    Except King, they're 150 psi.
     
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    :facepalm:I didn't specify which others. Only on their Prerunner series.

    if you read my previous posts, I already stated that
     
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    that goes to show that most of what I have worked on is king.

    I always enjoy tearing apart and learning about different shocks.
     
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    I absolutely agree. It allows me to discuss the differences between the products based on experience, not just what the latest trend or my neighbor told me.

    now if I could only find someone local with some Radflos. :rolleyes:
     
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    Yea.....A lot of people say that one shock is better than the other (most of the time because those are the ones they have), but don’t have any experience with the ins and outs different shocks to actually make a comparison.

    Here is an OE replacement radflo I recently rebuilt......

    30F55C73-7AA3-4663-8505-C4AEFF4F2855.jpg
     
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    Do they use a 3 seal bearing housing or just a two like Icon? I'm a firm believer that's why you see so many Icons leak.
     
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    Are you referring to the seal cap?

    If so, it’s a 2 seal cap if I remember correctly. However, the seal cap houses the wiper seal unlike the wiper cap design that king and fox use. Not a huge fan of this because it leaves the seal cap itself exposed to the elements, but that might not really matter either way. Also has a thin o-ring that sits between the seal cap and end cap to keep junk from coming in around the threaded area, but that didn’t seem to do much.
     
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    keeping jersey dirty
    okay if it isn't obvious yet take everything i say with a grain of salt i say dumb shit
    Probably lots of oil flow to make the fancy valving work so that high of pressure could be there as a little extra oomph to help fight cavitation ?? just spitballin tho
     
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    Okay i read through and yall beat me to mentioning this too lol :facepalm:
     
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    Every once in a great while you come across a post on TW that restores you faith in this place.
    Why anyone waste time yapping about 6” spacer lifts to clear 35s or some bull shit about a pop up tent is beyond me.

    ya dude, dial the big shocks in and float across them woops
     
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