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mid travel trouble

Discussion in '1st Gen. Tacomas (1995-2004)' started by makikid808, Oct 14, 2011.

  1. Oct 14, 2011 at 9:02 PM
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    makikid808

    makikid808 [OP] They call me unko

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    i want to really get a mid travel set up and talked to some shops about it but im just not so sure about it.

    My plan
    toyteck ulitmate lift kit
    http://www.toyteclifts.com/index.ph...tegory_id=120&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=72
    (the problem with this is that i really want to get up higher than three inches but without using a spacer but i like this kit because of the coilovers)
    (the other thing i dont like about this is that its 3 in the front and two in the back)
    (also going to need a drop bracket but it still would be putting a bad angle on the CV joints)

    TC UCA
    (i wanted to make sure that they work with the toytec coilovers

    Tires
    (i want to run 285/75/16 without having to do any cutting or trimming)

    Any help with a mid travel would really be appreciated. i just want to get the truck up at about at least 4-5 inches. More than 3 at least.
     
  2. Oct 14, 2011 at 9:12 PM
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    yeah, midtravel you're going to need extended coilovers, not just billys + eibachs. Rear typically sits higher than the front, so with 3" up front and 2" in the back it'll sit more "flat."

    Any suspension lift over ~2" and you better get ready to replace CV boots...
     
  3. Oct 14, 2011 at 9:21 PM
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    thats nice but only things are its a LT kit and its for 05+. mine is a 98 first gen
     
  4. Oct 14, 2011 at 9:24 PM
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    makikid808 [OP] They call me unko

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    i think the boots wont be to bad. its just the joint that i wouldnt want to replace. and idk how bad my shocks could be but my back sits lower than the front(i bought the truck from someone else so its second owned by me). also i would still be loading the truck so i was thinking bout some leaf spring so it wont droop so far down.
     
  5. Oct 14, 2011 at 9:24 PM
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    wut.

    Icon makes standard travel coilovers and extended travel coilovers. So does King, so does Fox.

    Those Toytec are bilstein 5100s with an adjustable collar and eibach springs.
     
  6. Oct 14, 2011 at 9:26 PM
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    it seems like all you want to do is lift your truck for looks, so go with a drop bracket, thats what their purpose is.
     
  7. Oct 14, 2011 at 9:27 PM
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  8. Oct 14, 2011 at 9:31 PM
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    no for me the point of the lift is to fit the 285/75/16 on with out rubbing both on and off road. i dont wanna be off road bouncing with the tires comming though my fenders or rubbing. i really dont care about how it looks. ok thats a lie to a certian extent but yea the main part is to clear the tires
     
  9. Oct 14, 2011 at 9:33 PM
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    You can fit 33's on 2" of lift. Hell, you can fit them on no lift if you cut enough out. For 4" of lift you better be running 35's, otherwise it'll look like shit.
     
  10. Oct 14, 2011 at 9:44 PM
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    ohh ok. no i see what you mean now. so what would you reccomend for a mid travel. i really want that travel without having to get the flares. here in hawaii there kind of stiff bout those things...
     
  11. Oct 14, 2011 at 9:48 PM
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    Normal travel is around 8". Mid travel is around 10". As far as I know, the only way to get mid travel is with extended travel coilovers from Icon, King, or Fox, as well as uniball UCAs from either Camburg or Total Chaos. Anything else and you're just lifting your truck without getting extra travel, which means you're LOSING travel.

    I'm big on getting the largest tire to fit with the least amount of lift...
     
  12. Oct 14, 2011 at 9:57 PM
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    yea i know wat you mean because people lift their truck rediculaslly high like 7 inches but they still run 33's. u aint doing crap unless u raise the pumpkin which is done with bigger tires. the only thing that i worry about though is that since i climb a lot i do bounce. just dont want any rubbing going on.

    also what do you reccomend for the rear
     
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    I'll probably go with an OME setup (Dakars + their shocks) in the rear, a lot of people like the All Pro Expos, but again 4" of lift is not appealing to me since I dont plan on lifting my front that high....
     
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    Also, don't put an AAL on worn springs....get new ones instead that'll lift the truck. It's more expensive, but it's doing it right.
     
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    Yea toyotechs ULT lift is NOT mid travel.

    You need UCAs and King or Fox extended coilovers. I wouldn't get Icons as they ride very stiff i have read, but handly great when you go fast...but you wont be going fast with mid travel, thats only for long travel.

    And i agree with the leaf packs too.

    Check out Wheelers offroad. They have their own leaf packs made my Alcan. But Dakar and Deavers are great too. Allpro Expo leafs also great.
     
  16. Oct 15, 2011 at 5:48 PM
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    Only Fox and ICON both make standard travel and extended length coilovers for the first gen (which require aftermarket UCA's such as TC or Camburg).

    King does not offer the same. They only have their OE replacement coilovers. Adding UCA's might get you an additional 1/4" of travel, but it is not what is generally considered a "mid travel" setup.

    Stiffness is attributed to spring rate and valving, not brand name. If you're rocking a 650# spring rate on a prerunner, then yeah, I would describe that as "stiff"

    Apparently I missed the memo about not going fast with a mid travel :notsure:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlmziAFg5GU
     
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