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Move camera feed from mirror to nav on a 2013 with a 2014 nav entune unit?

Discussion in 'Audio & Video' started by klavender1, Jun 6, 2017.

  1. Jun 6, 2017 at 12:16 PM
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    I have a 2013 with the backup camera in the mirror and the basic touch screen radio. I know there is a harness for this. I will soon be installing a 2014 Nav entune radio. Is there a way to make the backup camera show on both screens with this setup? I've searched and read many threads but couldn't find anything concerning this setup.
     
  2. Jun 7, 2017 at 8:52 AM
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    I think I've figured this out by looking at the EWD in TIS. I'm assuming this will work as I don't have the 2014 non-JBL nav unit yet. Hopefully it's just running wires from the camera connector by the fuse box to N26 24 pin connector on the back of the nav unit. So I will have to get the N26 connector and pins from work (I work at a Lexus dealership, makes this a little easier) and wire it up.
     
  3. Jun 9, 2017 at 9:49 AM
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    keep us posted was wanting to do the same thing as that is my same exact configuration 2013 with backup camera image in rearview mirror and 2014 Nav unit.
     
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  4. Jun 10, 2017 at 5:48 PM
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    I tapped into the backup camera connector by the fuse box. Then ran the cables into a 24 pin connector in the back of the head unit. I only pinned out the 4 pins that send the camera signal. It didn't work. Current thought is there might be a reverse signal wire that goes into head unit that I'm missing. More research is needed.
     
  5. Jun 13, 2017 at 6:31 AM
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    Great success!! Once I ran a reverse signal wire to the head unit all is well. Here's how to do this.

    Buy this 24 pin connector from Toyota:

    N26_Connector.jpg



    You'll see the part number for the connector and repair wires. The connector isn't bad but the repair wires aren't cheap. You may want to find an alternate source for those. Luckily I work at a Lexus dealership and was able to scavenge a few pins (with attached wiring) from junk wiring harnesses. You will connect the 4 wires from the camera connector listed below to pins 11, 12, 23 & 24 on this new connector.
    Pin 11: Black wire
    Pin 12: Red wire
    Pin 23: Ground wire (the sorta bare wire)
    Pin 24: White wire

    Then you will need pins to insert into the camera & reverse wire connectors. I thought I would tear apart an old printer cable I had to use the pins (I save all sorts of crap). But it got the better of me. I stabbed myself.
    Dontdothis.jpg

    Then I realized I had a Metra radio harness for a GM. No idea why I had this but I broke the connector apart and used the pins which conveniently fit and already had wires attached.
    Pins.jpg


    Here's the cable I made before realizing I needed a 5th wire for the reverse signal so keep that in mind. I put heat shrink over the exposed part of the pins that will push into the connector. I used some 18awg wire and some 22awg wire. Basically what I had handy.
    cable.jpg

    Onto the connections. Here's the truck's connectors you will slide the pins into. Stolen from a fellow TW member. The top connector carries the reverse signal wire. It's the red wire on the bottom row in the middle. The bottom connector pictured here is the backup camera wires that feed the signal to the mirror. It's right at the fuse box behind the change holder thing in front of your left knee. Pretty convenient.
    DSC05105.jpg

    The reverse signal is pin 11 on the top connector.
    reverseconnector.jpg

    You will connect the reverse signal wire from this pin 11 to pin 2 on the 28 pin connector on the back of your radio. There's no pin there from the factory on our 2013's.
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    And it works!
    backupcamera.jpg

    Cliff notes:
    Reverse wire:
    Pin 11 of IN1 connector to Pin 2 of the 28 pin connector
    Camera to 24 pin connector:
    Pin 11: Black wire
    Pin 12: Red wire
    Pin 23: Ground wire (the sorta bare wire)
    Pin 24: White wire
     
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  6. Jun 13, 2017 at 6:35 AM
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    Note all pin numbers listed is based on looking at the front of the connector. Which is the opposite side of where the wires come out.
     
  7. Jun 13, 2017 at 6:53 AM
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    Thats Awesome great work! 24 Pin connector is on order
     
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  8. Jun 13, 2017 at 7:09 AM
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    I will try to see if I can find some extra pins you can use. Makes it so much easier.
     
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    I can't make it out clearly on the picture of the simultaneous rear view mirror and the HU image, did lose the red guideline marks on the rearview screen?
     
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    Yes. It's been brought up in other threads. The lines are built into the mirror apparently. It's a bad picture but the lines show on the mirror but not the head unit.
     
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    The same shit everyone else has.
    Good shit!

    I think I had my 24 pin connector sorted out, but was missing my reverse signal when I tried doing mine.

    Time to pull my radio back out and redo it
     
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    Boosted Money Pit....
    Any idea what could be setup wrong? I tapped into the wire that's going to the radio from the anytime mod for the reverse so it would run both. This should work since it does the same.

    Still not turning on.

    2nd pin on 28 connector

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    Reverse wire tapped into anytime mod. Wore that goes to the mirror.
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    Camera wires, I re-checked and made sure some contact was going on.
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    Boosted Money Pit....
    ah just saw this note. all the factory pictures represent the other side. I will move them around and see if that helps.
     
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    Subbed. I still want a forward facing camera to show up HU.
     
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    Boosted Money Pit....
    That's my next tackle. I think based on the anytime you could tap into the same and add a switch to select front or rear.
     
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    Camera is still not showing up in HU. Not sure what's wrong. Anyone have picture of the connectors with wires in? I've tried switching as if looking on the opposite and nothing.
     
  17. Sep 24, 2017 at 6:29 PM
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    Looks like it was working after I swapped but the anytime isn't working for the HU portion. Need to see if I tapped the wrong wire for it to work with anytime. But it's working.
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    Actually I bought a harness from EBay that's supposed to work, but I never got around to messing with it.
     
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    Pretty easy once you have the 24 pin connector and some t taps. Now just need to tweak it so anytime works. Then I can tackle a front camera.
     
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    klavender1, I am doing the rear camera anytime and the front camera mod to my 2017 TRDOR. I will be connecting pins 12 and 24 from the N26 connector to a DPDT switch, so I can switch from front to rear camera. Instead of cutting the 2 rear camera video wires, I'd like to remove the female pins from the N26 connector and connect them directly to the male pins of my own 30" jumper wires. The other end of the wires will connect to the top terminals of the DPDT switch as the rear camera. I'll connect 2 more 30" jumpers to the middle posts of the switch (output). These will be terminated with female pins so I can replace the OEM wires I removed from the connector.

    I just need some help identifying the type of pins used in these OEM connectors so I can purchase them from either Toyota or an electrical supply retailer. I know Toyota sells a jumper wire pre-made, but as you stated earlier, they're rather expensive! Plus, I will still need to get 2 of the matching male pins.

    Thanks for any help you can give to me.
     
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