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Moving the Entire Front suspension Down an inch

Discussion in 'Suspension' started by FloridaFree, Jun 19, 2022.

  1. Jun 20, 2022 at 12:07 PM
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    FloridaFree

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    Look at a BDS drop bracket lift kit. They can fit 35 inch tires without cutting. The entire suspension is shifted 6 or 4 inches.

    You can do similar but to a lesser extent with a diff drop kit (1 inch), a top hat spacer (0.5 inch), and extended bumpstop.

    I don't understand why this is so hard to understand....
     
  2. Jun 20, 2022 at 12:10 PM
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    wi_taco

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    OP I beg you please ignore us and do your modifications to prove us wrong. Clearly you understand better how this works and we need to be shown the way. Take photos and do a write up about it so we can see. Be sure to share alignment specs and tire clearance in the wheel well at full stuff & lock.
     
  3. Jun 20, 2022 at 12:31 PM
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    Cut & broke off stuff. Prolific ziptie and tape usage.
    Over thinking and unnecessary. Not enough benefit for the time & material cost.

    33 inch tires are about max before people complain about performance loss and think about new gears in the diffs. That eats into reversible argument in my opinion.

    Really, to clear larger tires, moving the lower control arm mounts forward would be more useful to avoid body mount and firewall clearance issues. Someone designed a weld on plate once...

    If you just want a cheap, easy, and reversible way to fit taller tires, do a body lift and don't go crazy with wheel offset or fat tires. If you want performance from your suspension, there are better ways than that video with more bang for the buck.
     
  4. Jun 20, 2022 at 12:42 PM
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    I wouldn’t do this though.
     
  5. Jun 20, 2022 at 12:42 PM
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    hell yeah lol
     
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    Nope. I just did this last week. The LCA does bottom out before the shock unless you pull the cam bolts. I don't know why it does, but it does. If you want to droop lower than stock, you need a different LCA.
     
  7. Jun 20, 2022 at 1:50 PM
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    I gotta wait for the time to do it. Like I stated earlier where I am now I have to rent an area. Not at home. Also there are no 255/85r17 for second hand sale. Pretty sure it's only made by 1 company and its newish size.

    I will probably just use my current tires just to prove my point, that more tire clearance will be achieved and a lift without swapping down travel for up travel
     
  8. Jun 20, 2022 at 2:12 PM
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    Literally the only person provided anything of value in the thread. people just saying "no it can't be done " without any explanation.

    I just assumed it was UCA because when I took out my struts last weekend the uca was super close

    I am gonna take a look and see if it's able to be figured out at a glance
     
  9. Jun 20, 2022 at 2:19 PM
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    I don’t think anyones said it can’t be


    I think we’ve said it shouldn’t be
     
  10. Jun 20, 2022 at 2:25 PM
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    That's a whole lot words to say nothing.
    it can't the lca is the limiting factor. Poster above tried it
     
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    I am just impressed how all these armchair expert tell you something with such confidence but can't explain why. How many posts did it take until someone give any answer?

    This forum is 90% boomer rambling noise.

    At least this guy gave a way to try it which is helpful. But he couldn't tell me why down travel is limited. So his understanding of suspension is clearly vague.
     
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    Like look at this guy. I would think this is a bot or something typing out context free grammar.
     
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    Caught me
     
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    Cut & broke off stuff. Prolific ziptie and tape usage.
    Think about it this way. Each added piece in a system is a potential failure point and risk or severity of risk associated with a failure may vary by component.
    * Adding more components adds new possible failure point.
    * Reinforcing one area may shift failure point to an area of higher risk or severity.

    I personally would not shim a spindle. The right way would be a new larger spindle.

    Also, a lot of things look like benefit on paper but is it a meaningful and noticeable benefit? Most of us wouldn't be able to tell a difference in an extra inch of down travel while driving.

    If you operate in a manner where it would be a notable improvement, you will most likely need to also assess other changes and scrap the idea of changes to the truck being easy to reverse/undo.

    Do you need King/Icon/Fox remote resi coilovers or will 5100s on stock springs to gain some lift meet your needs 99% of the time or is a real custom job needed to hit your goal. Some of us are guilty of just wanting the bling product or just wanting to tinker. Is this a case of the latter? ;)

    Try your idea if you have the resources. We won't be angry, not all of us anyway, if you do find a new way to improve our trucks in some way.
     
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    At this point your the armchair mechanic if you dont even have a place to work on your truck? I'm a milennial by the way.
     
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    95% of the people responding to this thread are very smart. Take their advice.
     
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    he also put a 454 in last week:rofl:
    It's the internet, take it all with a grain of salt
     
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    Now I gotta harp on this.

    My understanding of the LCA is because I put the truck on stands and articulated stuff while taking it apart, exactly like what someone else just suggested above.

    And also, that was just talking about what limits down travel. Going back to the other topic, fitting big rubber, everyone else is correct on that. One inch drop isn't going to solve that. The top of the fender isn't what rubs.
     
  20. Jun 20, 2022 at 3:04 PM
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    Isn’t this just the 4000th version of a spacer lift, but with a diff drop tacked on?
     
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