1. Welcome to Tacoma World!

    You are currently viewing as a guest! To get full-access, you need to register for a FREE account.

    As a registered member, you’ll be able to:
    • Participate in all Tacoma discussion topics
    • Communicate privately with other Tacoma owners from around the world
    • Post your own photos in our Members Gallery
    • Access all special features of the site

My 2007 has frame rust!!

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by BlueT, Oct 5, 2009.

  1. Oct 5, 2009 at 8:35 AM
    #1
    BlueT

    BlueT [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 30, 2009
    Member:
    #15341
    Messages:
    5,645
    Gender:
    Male
    NorthEast
    Vehicle:
    07 Dbl Cab LB with LSD
    I moded 1999 Taco so much it had turned to Land Cruiser
    Truck: 2007 Dbl cab long bed with 22k miles,
    Location: New England
    Issue:
    I have pretty bad rust on the frame that started to flake. Most of the rust is located on the bottom of the frame right next to the cab mounts.
    This weekend I cleaned as much as I could and primed frame with industrial primer. While cleaning I realized that most of the rust seems to be attracted by welds on the frame. In addition, I was surprised how thin coat of paint frame has.
    Anybody else having similar problem?
    Personally, I doubt these frames will last with out repainting them. Thinking that I may have to sell the truck before issue becomes much worst. Any thoughts.?

    P.S. Any idea why Toyota did not paint front diff [​IMG] ?
     
  2. Oct 5, 2009 at 8:40 AM
    #2
    gupster88

    gupster88 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 2, 2009
    Member:
    #16692
    Messages:
    3,791
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Brett
    Almost Heaven
    Vehicle:
    '17 Inferno DCSB O/R
    STOCK 4 NOW
    i have a little bit of surface rust near the welds but nothing bad. i live in the salt belt of america it seems like too. im going to take a wire brush and some paint to the frame soon. just keep an eye on it and do some preventative maintenance when possible.
     
  3. Oct 5, 2009 at 8:40 AM
    #3
    chris4x4

    chris4x4 With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. Moderator

    Joined:
    May 8, 2008
    Member:
    #6497
    Messages:
    106,187
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    FlimFlubberJAM
    Tenoe, AZ
    Vehicle:
    2013 Rubicon Unlimited,
    4.10 gears, sliders, and lots of buttons.
    Post up some pics.
     
  4. Oct 5, 2009 at 8:42 AM
    #4
    HBMurphy

    HBMurphy Ban Pending

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2009
    Member:
    #18993
    Messages:
    6,090
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Paul
    So California Coast
    Vehicle:
    09 Off Road Delete Model
    None
    On the east coast, you may have to be the Bridge Inspector on a regular basis!
     
  5. Oct 5, 2009 at 8:43 AM
    #5
    Fire931

    Fire931 Well-Known Member Vendor

    Joined:
    Jan 18, 2009
    Member:
    #12687
    Messages:
    3,244
    Gender:
    Male
    VA
    Vehicle:
    00 4Runner
    some surface rust seems to be pretty common on these trucks when operated in winter environments.. nothing a little maintenance each year can't prevent.
     
  6. Oct 5, 2009 at 8:58 AM
    #6
    wiscdave

    wiscdave Lets Do It!

    Joined:
    Mar 20, 2008
    Member:
    #5392
    Messages:
    2,543
    Gender:
    Male
    Northern Wisconsin
    Vehicle:
    Tundra Rock Warrior
    Past ride - 3" OME 885s&Shocks/ TSB 1.5AAL/ AX184 Rims 285 Firestone destination ATs/ 2 Shallow mount P310s in Supercrew Box - Punch 601s, Beefed up Hunter Brush guard, Tint, Fog light mod, AFE Drop in, AC and Fog light mods, scangauge
    Surface rust doesn't affect the overall strength of the truck, it just looks bad.

    Undercoat the frame or get surface rust, happens to everything in WI because of the road salt.
     
  7. Oct 5, 2009 at 9:04 AM
    #7
    BlueT

    BlueT [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 30, 2009
    Member:
    #15341
    Messages:
    5,645
    Gender:
    Male
    NorthEast
    Vehicle:
    07 Dbl Cab LB with LSD
    I moded 1999 Taco so much it had turned to Land Cruiser
    Here are some pics, unfortunately I started painting my frame but on some you can see rust erosion under the paint
    [​IMG]


    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    P.S. On my truck front diff is steel and rusted (now painted a little)

    Work is still in progress but I m plannign to double coat with primer then paint it black.
    You can see some of the lines that I painted due to rust, also (not shown o nthe pictures) brake line connections under the driver side had show lots of rust so I painted them too.
     
  8. Oct 5, 2009 at 9:11 AM
    #8
    BlueT

    BlueT [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 30, 2009
    Member:
    #15341
    Messages:
    5,645
    Gender:
    Male
    NorthEast
    Vehicle:
    07 Dbl Cab LB with LSD
    I moded 1999 Taco so much it had turned to Land Cruiser
    Problem is this is not surface rust. diff has surface rust but frame has a serious rust. Dont think undercoating helps much with that unleass undercoating has rust inhibitors.
    I think part that upsets me is that I have 1994 LC that spend its life in New England, was not undercoated and still have frame in better shape then my 2007. But the difference between both frames is the amount of factory paint on them. LC has close to a 1mm of paint were 2007 Tacoma maybe half mm at best and still it is so soft that can be notched with finger nail.
     
  9. Oct 5, 2009 at 9:59 AM
    #9
    Masada

    Masada Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 10, 2009
    Member:
    #22555
    Messages:
    3,093
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Taylor
    Laveen, AZ
    Vehicle:
    05 Tacoma 4x4 TRD Off Road
    All Pro Steel Plate Front Bumper| All Pro Light Bar| All Pro IFS Skid Plate| All Pro E-locker guard| PIAA 510 Fog Lights| Hella 700FF| Fox 2.5 Coilover| Bilstein 5100 on the rear| BHLM| Grill Craft MX Series insert| Added two D-rings to bed|AVID Off Road sliders| AFE Dry Flow S| Gibson Cat Back| Custom Bedbar with hilift mount| Camburg 1" Uni-Ball UCA's| Hi-Lift 48" Extreme
    Wouldn't Toyota cover this under their rust/corrosion warranty? Why not take it into them and have them do all the hard work?

    PS the underside of your truck looks really cool though :)
     
  10. Oct 5, 2009 at 10:12 AM
    #10
    BlueT

    BlueT [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 30, 2009
    Member:
    #15341
    Messages:
    5,645
    Gender:
    Male
    NorthEast
    Vehicle:
    07 Dbl Cab LB with LSD
    I moded 1999 Taco so much it had turned to Land Cruiser
    I Spoke with Toyota and they refused to do anything about. They offered to do undercoating for $300+ which consists of spraying bunch of cans of NAPA rubber undercoating. :confused:
    Its not a surface rust so rubber under coating will not help since no rust inhibitors are there. Frame will simply keep rusting under the under-coating :rolleyes:
    I also asked them if I can remove front and rear diffs for painting and they said would void warranty. :mad:
    So I will be painting things in place and hope for the best.
     
  11. Oct 5, 2009 at 10:25 AM
    #11
    Masada

    Masada Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 10, 2009
    Member:
    #22555
    Messages:
    3,093
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Taylor
    Laveen, AZ
    Vehicle:
    05 Tacoma 4x4 TRD Off Road
    All Pro Steel Plate Front Bumper| All Pro Light Bar| All Pro IFS Skid Plate| All Pro E-locker guard| PIAA 510 Fog Lights| Hella 700FF| Fox 2.5 Coilover| Bilstein 5100 on the rear| BHLM| Grill Craft MX Series insert| Added two D-rings to bed|AVID Off Road sliders| AFE Dry Flow S| Gibson Cat Back| Custom Bedbar with hilift mount| Camburg 1" Uni-Ball UCA's| Hi-Lift 48" Extreme
    Really?

    Did you look at their website, http://www.toyota.com/tacoma/warranty.html

    it says is right there "Rust-Through 60 months/unlimited miles (corrosion perforation of sheet metal)." Maybe you should call corporate and let them know what kind of service you are getting. Plus inform them that their dealership there is unwilling to live up to their warranty. Or try another dealership in the area...see what they have to say.

    If it were me, I would still do my own but raise holly hell with Toyota just on the principle of the matter. That is just flat wrong if they refuse you when it's in their warranty.
     
  12. Oct 5, 2009 at 10:37 AM
    #12
    Simon's Mom

    Simon's Mom Wag More Bark Less

    Joined:
    Apr 12, 2007
    Member:
    #1297
    Messages:
    9,321
    Gender:
    Female
    First Name:
    Judy or Jude :)
    SBurl Vermont
    Vehicle:
    13 TRD OR DC MGM
    Stock for now
    What kind of paint did you use?
    Mine is pretty rusty & have posted pics here before about it in another thread. :(

    Every one up in the salt roaded regions have to be vigilant unfortunately.

    I have seen the frame swaps and crusher parking lots for the 1GEN's & agree my pre tacoma 95 pickup frame was better after 10+ years than the 3 winter seasons on my 2006. :notsure:

    I fully expect this frame to bomb & hopefully TMCC will have to initiate another frame rust campaign with enough compliants.
     
  13. Oct 5, 2009 at 4:07 PM
    #13
    george3

    george3 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 8, 2008
    Member:
    #7173
    Messages:
    3,552
    new jersey
    Vehicle:
    tacoma
    Seat belt beeper, Cabelas (Weathertech) floor liner gray, Covercraft Seat Savers in Taupe, Protecta Heavy Duty Rubber Truck Bed Mat, Pop n Lock PL5200, Pace Edwards Full Metal JackRabbit, Wolverine oil pan heater, Scangauge2, afe pro dry s filter, Remote Underbody 4 Piece LED Light Kit (White) used as Bed light, DIY Washable Cabin Air Filter, PA15-TOY, 4x4 Illuminated Switch, full synthetic, Redline Tuning Hood Support, Smittybilt Nerf Steps black powder-coated
    I posted this on another thread. They bought back my 2000, now I have an 08. I'm trying to keep the frame and under body from rusting. My brother in law had a old Taco with 270,000 on it when he drove it to the junk yard, wouldn't pass NJ emissions but there was no rust on the frame. My question is two fold, if his old Taco with 275,000 on it had no rust why do our new ones get rust, and second it they buy them back they must know there is a problem, so why don't they fix it, go back to the old ways that worked? It just doesn't make any sense to me. They are going to ruin there good rep for something that is obvious.
     
  14. Oct 5, 2009 at 4:16 PM
    #14
    sabre2up

    sabre2up Member

    Joined:
    Sep 27, 2009
    Member:
    #23399
    Messages:
    14
    Gender:
    Male
    Maine
    Vehicle:
    Tacoma 4wd
    I plan on staying ahead of the rust on my 2010 if possible but here in Maine they use a combination of sand and chemicals that make it nearly impossible to prevent rust on any vehicle. Reading over my warranty manual it sounds like corrosion due to salt is not covered by the warranty. Was that in previous owner's warranty manuals or is it something new so that Toyota can duck any responsibility for future frame rust problems? I got under my truck and looked things over and it does look like a decent attempt to protect the frame with the black paint they covered it with but with a frame that thin it woundn;t take long for rust to eat through once it does get started. I don't see very many old Toyota trucks around these parts anymore.
     
  15. Oct 5, 2009 at 5:04 PM
    #15
    otter

    otter Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 27, 2009
    Member:
    #20249
    Messages:
    265
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Rob
    MI
    Vehicle:
    09 4 cyl Reg Cab
    I think you're missing the key words there - corrosion perforation. Just some surface rust/flaking isn't covered by warranty. The rust has to perforate (rust all the way through) the frame/body part to be covered.
     
  16. Oct 5, 2009 at 5:35 PM
    #16
    WCJR

    WCJR Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 9, 2009
    Member:
    #22510
    Messages:
    58
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    W
    I do not know what years this applies too but toyota has and is still replacing frames on some tacomas. When i was buying my 09 clunker i saw customers doing the paperwork for a new frame. I spoke to my service mgr who confirmed new frames were being installed and some were getting new trucks. I do not know what years or other infor. But this is a fact.
    Thanks
     
  17. Oct 5, 2009 at 6:00 PM
    #17
    BlueT

    BlueT [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 30, 2009
    Member:
    #15341
    Messages:
    5,645
    Gender:
    Male
    NorthEast
    Vehicle:
    07 Dbl Cab LB with LSD
    I moded 1999 Taco so much it had turned to Land Cruiser
    Problem is that frame does not have enough paint on it to prevent rust. I dont see any other solutions then, either repaint the frame or ditch the truck. I mean dont get me wrong I like the truck but I am pretty sure in less then 8 years these frames will start corroding with alarming rate. What is sad is that I can not even unbolt things for painting with out voiding warranty.
    Paint I used is from tractor supply made for farm equipment and had been working for me on other cars/metal surfaces. So with good primer and paint, it should slow down rust. I am planning to figure out some way to paint inside the frame but one step at the time :) I was telling my wife what sucks is that I spent so much money for that truck and yet I am underneath painting it> I would have been more then happy to pay Toyota to get frame with extra 2 coats of paint. :goingcrazy:
     
  18. Oct 5, 2009 at 6:03 PM
    #18
    Lentsnh

    Lentsnh Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 22, 2008
    Member:
    #10953
    Messages:
    9,547
    Gender:
    Male
    Vehicle:
    2007 Hummer H3 Tactical Edition
    None yet- Future: HIDs, Tinted tails, LED interior lights,
    I just let the frame and the spray paint meet. :)
     
  19. Oct 5, 2009 at 7:07 PM
    #19
    george3

    george3 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 8, 2008
    Member:
    #7173
    Messages:
    3,552
    new jersey
    Vehicle:
    tacoma
    Seat belt beeper, Cabelas (Weathertech) floor liner gray, Covercraft Seat Savers in Taupe, Protecta Heavy Duty Rubber Truck Bed Mat, Pop n Lock PL5200, Pace Edwards Full Metal JackRabbit, Wolverine oil pan heater, Scangauge2, afe pro dry s filter, Remote Underbody 4 Piece LED Light Kit (White) used as Bed light, DIY Washable Cabin Air Filter, PA15-TOY, 4x4 Illuminated Switch, full synthetic, Redline Tuning Hood Support, Smittybilt Nerf Steps black powder-coated
    some way to paint inside the frame http://www.por15.com/DAUBER-KIT/productinfo/DK/

     
  20. Oct 7, 2009 at 10:54 AM
    #20
    BlueT

    BlueT [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 30, 2009
    Member:
    #15341
    Messages:
    5,645
    Gender:
    Male
    NorthEast
    Vehicle:
    07 Dbl Cab LB with LSD
    I moded 1999 Taco so much it had turned to Land Cruiser
    Update:
    Well I decided to speak to Toyota reps and ask them what they think about my frame rusting so soon, and they told me painting my frame my void warranty. :yay:
    Also they have no plans to help, but I can go visit again my dealership and talk to them. :jerkoff: So only solution is Napa rubberized undercoating (funny if dealership charges money for it then there is no warranty voided):)
    Ha ha there is gonna be lots of 2gens with frame rot soon. Parts trucks.:confused:
    Well since I would like to keep the truck I will continue painting so F#$# Toyota rust Warranty it is better to loose that then have my frame rot in few years. I am gonna now paint my frame John Deere green :p:bananadance:
     
To Top