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My Story for Tonight (Flat Tire problems) and questions

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by RBaptist, Jan 21, 2009.

  1. Jan 21, 2009 at 6:17 PM
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    RBaptist

    RBaptist [OP] Well-Known Member

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    So I head out from work this evening and right as I'm about to turn onto the interstate, I hear a small "pop". Kinda sounded like I ran over a plastic coke bottle. I then heard the tell tale signs of a flat tire. I pull over, take a look and all looks well. I looked for my pressure guage to check just in case..and of course I stuck it in my wife's car a week earlier. I decide to buy one at a store down the street about 1/4mile and just as I go to put the guage on...I hear it...the dreaded HISSSSS of a deflating tire. :( And the tires are fairly new (only 6 months). :(:(:(

    NO WORRIES....I'm AN EXPERT TIRE CHANGER...RIGHT ??? :cool: I mean, I've probably tossed 15-20 tires on cars in my 32 short years....I've changed a timing chain on a Japanese vehicle, I've survived Waffle House, and I have a degree in engineering.:D:popcorn:

    I pull over to a local Home Depot that has a nice lit up contractor section (it's getting dark)...and get to work. I assemble the rod from hell (you know what I am talking about) :laser: and try to lower the tire. 10 min later...no dice. I look for my mag light(oops...put that in my wife's car too and didn't buy another). A nice THD employee grabs a light and gives me a hand. The guy shines his light in there and the two of us spend about 5 more minutes trying to lower the stupid tire. I told him "I got it from here..thank you :thumbsup:" and off he goes. I pull out the jack and stick it under the frame and start twirling it with the most awkward jack wrench on the planet....only to find that my jack is about 2" too short!!!! Really? :frusty: :confused::confused::confused::confused::confused::confused::confused::confused::confused::confused::confused::confused::confused::confused::confused:

    I'm kinda ticked at this point. I end up going inside and purchasing a $60 floor jack. :mad::mad::mad::mad: The bad part is...I have one at home already...60 miles away. I get the car up and change the tire...no problems at all! :bananadance: Back on the road.

    So just to make sure I am not crazy...I parked the car in my garage and tried again with the jack. I torqued the HELL :devil: out of the little bottle jack and it does in fact lift the truck about 10mm off the ground. Now I wasn't on completely level ground at THD, but when have ANY of you been on level ground on the side of the road trying to change your tire ? And it won't work at ALL on the frame rails...only the cross beam. Again...REALLY ??:confused::confused:

    I have a 2.7 SR5 Prerunner Access Cab with the Suspension TSB, so my truck is stock.

    Moral of the story:
    1) Make sure you have a flashlight (duh)...cause you ain't moving that spare without it!!:thumbsup:
    2) Keep a pressure guage in your truck! :eek:
    3) Make sure your jack is big enough to lift your truck! :thumbsup: If I had been on the side of the interstate....well I would still be sitting there now!


    Now....Questions for the Group:
    1) Does anyone make an aftermarket electric winch to raise and lower the tire? I've seen them on higher end cars. Seems like it would be an easy install if there was a kit out there. (Heck I could prbably rig something). I had my wife try to do it when I got home and there is NO WAY she would be able to do that on the side of a road at dark (even with a flashlight). That's not sexist...she has changed the tire on her Camry before with ZERO problems. Just a fact.

    2) Anyone else have the same prob with the jack? I have a 2.7 SR5 Prerunner AccessCab.

    Much appreciated!
    Robert
     
  2. Jan 21, 2009 at 6:22 PM
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    wildjerseyfirefighter

    wildjerseyfirefighter I sell fishing and fishing accessories

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    i hear of that alot. Its funny to drive down the highway, or even in a parkinglot and see bottle/scissor jacks in it. I always wondered why untill i got into the automotive biz. Sucks to hear about the tire thou..Did you have the insurance on it?
     
  3. Jan 21, 2009 at 6:23 PM
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    jdkeller

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    nice story. I havent had to use my jack yet thankfully :D
     
  4. Jan 21, 2009 at 6:27 PM
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    Not much yet, got a pretty good sound system w/ my custom sub box. Plan on adding more lights & a tool box.
    Sounds like we'd all better toss a 2x4 or a 4x4 in to get a bit more height outta that POS jack.
     
  5. Jan 21, 2009 at 6:28 PM
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    RBaptist

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    No insurance on the tire unfortunately. Tires came with the truck when I bought it used back in July. Bought it at a Toyota dealership and they put new tires on it as part of the bargaining chip. The entry looks fairly clean though. I'll run by Goodyear in the AM and see if it can be patched.

    Try that jack JdKeller!!! It's cold out there right now and I am soooo glad I caught the flat before I hit the 50 mile stretch of interstate to my house!!
     
  6. Jan 21, 2009 at 6:28 PM
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    I've never had a problem with either the spare tire lift or the "stock" jack. I've had to change a tire a couple of times now. Dumb question but did you turn the top of the bottle jack first to raise it up before actually turning the crank part of it? It definitely won't fit if you haven't turned the top first.
     
  7. Jan 21, 2009 at 6:29 PM
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    wat?
    holy shit....newnan, ga.....i lived in senoia and went to ECHS!! havent been back there in like 6-7 years
     
  8. Jan 21, 2009 at 6:31 PM
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    RBaptist

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    Stu....now I am kicking myself.....I was in front of a Home Depot and it didn't even occur to me to buy a 2X4 or 4X4 post instead of a NEW jack....I probably could have gotten a scrap piece for free....

    Sometimes the simplest solutions are the best.
     
  9. Jan 21, 2009 at 6:31 PM
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    i just use the hilift but i (knock on wood) havent had to change a flat on the side of the road...ever
     
  10. Jan 21, 2009 at 6:34 PM
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    The jack goes under the axle in the rear and possibly under the lower a-arm in the front. The owners manual should give you jack placement.

    They wouldn't give you a jack if it wouldn't work on the stock setup.

    Marc M
     
  11. Jan 21, 2009 at 6:35 PM
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    My stock bottle jack lifts my lifted Tacoma... hmm...
     
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    Most amazing part of this story is you survived Waffle House!
     
  13. Jan 21, 2009 at 6:43 PM
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    Easier to catch a fish with your tongue than get that &&$@*@#()@*Y$ rod thingee in the thingee hole!!!! I hope toyota's spare tire engineer is first to get laid off.
     
  14. Jan 21, 2009 at 6:47 PM
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    Makes me want to go try the jack... just to be sure.
     
  15. Jan 21, 2009 at 7:08 PM
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  16. Jan 21, 2009 at 9:04 PM
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    j4,
    I checked the jack again and there is nothing to twist. It's just a standard run of the mill bottle jack. I see you have an 05. Perhaps they changed it on the 07s??

    I'll try to shoot a pic of the whole rig tomorrow afternoon. I wouldn't have believed it either as Toyota seems to do a pretty good job otherwise. I plan on taking it to the Toyota service center tomorrow to have them "demo" it for me. Should be fun. I hope to at least get a new jack out of it since it is quite obvious that something isn't quite right. I'm guessing either the jack is defective and not fully extending or someone put the wrong one in the vehicle when it was built.

    We'll see.
     
  17. Jan 22, 2009 at 4:38 AM
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    RB, sounds like an adventure! Glad you got it done alas the sixty bux. Never can have enough floor jacks!
     
  18. Jan 22, 2009 at 4:49 AM
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    The factory bottle jacks have two parts to them. there is an "outer sleeve" and an "inner sleeve." Maybe yours is getting hung up before the inner sleeve can engage and go up further.
     
  19. Jan 22, 2009 at 6:58 AM
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    I had a similar experience with my 2004 Toyota Solara except it was the lug wrench that didnt fit the lugs on the car(which was all stock). It was too small. Luckily when my flat occured i was at home and had a 4-way lug wrench in the garage. From then on I kept the 4-way in the trunk in case it ever happened again. I guess I need to get out my jack and everything else and try it out on my new 09 Tacoma and make sure it all works before I really need it on the side of the road.
     
  20. Jan 22, 2009 at 7:22 AM
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    1. If you lube the mechanical winch periodically and lower occasionally you won't have this problem.

    2. I think the jack is supposed to go under the axle. There should be a radius in the top of the jack face for this purpose.
     
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