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Discussion in 'Wheels & Tires' started by DanGer, Jun 21, 2009.

  1. Jun 21, 2009 at 6:51 PM
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    DanGer

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    I have read all I can on wheels, but when it comes down to it I am still fuzzy on the bs vs offset relationship. Do I need the first or the second option? I want to match, or come as close to the stock specs as possible

    They are both 16x7 and it comes down to

    4" BS, 0mm offset vs.
    4.5" BS, 13mm offset

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  2. Jun 21, 2009 at 7:23 PM
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    That is what I thought. In my research I saw that stock was 4.5" bs with 12mm offset, then I read the 12mm offset cancels out the bs and wound up :goingcrazy::annoyed:

    So I sucked up my pride and decided to ask!

    Thanks for the reply!
     
  3. Jun 21, 2009 at 9:18 PM
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    i got the trd wheels...they are 16x8 with 4.5 bs and 1mm offset....i have no idea of the offset and bs of the stock steel wheels.....but the wheels i got fit perfectly with 265/70/16 tires...keeps the same diameter as stock so your speedo is right...just gives you a wider tread and looks way better...zero rubbing...no lift needed
     
  4. Jun 21, 2009 at 9:27 PM
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    Had tons on the old Taco's.... new Tundra is pretty stock
    backspace is the distance between the back lip of the wheel and the mounting surface.
    Offset is the distance of the mounting surface from the centerline of the wheel. neg offset will push the wheel out, positive will tuck the wheel into the fenderwell closer.
     
  5. Jun 21, 2009 at 9:32 PM
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    Had tons on the old Taco's.... new Tundra is pretty stock
    a while back I asked Chris what the specs were of the factory wheels and he said it was 5.5" BS, and they're 7" wide iirc.
    The closest to stock of the ones you had listed is the 16x7 and +13 offset, 4.5" BS
     
  6. Jun 22, 2009 at 10:30 AM
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    Thank you all for your responses! This will move my secret wheel project along nicely :spy:

    All I need is to sell my FJ wheels so I can buy these, and wait for my stocker tires to wear down a wee bit more!
     
  7. Jun 22, 2009 at 11:05 AM
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  8. Jun 22, 2009 at 12:47 PM
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    alright dgerm, you need to spill the beans on the project. It has been 1 hour and 16 minutes since you stated you have a secret project and my patience has been tested.
     
  9. Jun 22, 2009 at 12:52 PM
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    this goes well with ur wheel spacer thread. u ask ur professor and made it seem like wheel spacers are bad, but now your getting -4.5" backspacing, which is not that much of a difference than the wheel spacers, the spidertrax will equal to a -4.25" backspacing
     
  10. Jun 22, 2009 at 1:09 PM
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    Yes, but the engineers of the truck used factory wheels with backspacing. The point of my post is to find the wheel specs closest to stock---closest to how our trucks were designed to perform
     
  11. Jun 22, 2009 at 1:17 PM
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    i know im not hating, but im just saying its kinda funny that u were proving the "dangers of wheel spacers" and now ur pretty much doing the same thing, thats all
     
  12. Jun 22, 2009 at 1:24 PM
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    I am not doing anything like wheel spacers. The entire point of me asking my question is to get wheels that are closest to the factory specs...Not try and increase the load on my hub in order to get a better look. I want the exact opposite of wheel spacers
     
  13. Jun 22, 2009 at 1:26 PM
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    yea u getting wheels with -4.5 backspacing is pretty much the same thing as getting wheel spacers that equal to -4.25 backspace.... factory is 5.5
     
  14. Jun 22, 2009 at 3:13 PM
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    yea i see what your saying, the spidertrax is more like an adapter than a spacer so not worried bout extra stress since its got its own lugs and torqued to spec

    EDIT: The Spidertrax ones get torqued in place and the wheels are attached using built-in wheel studs, which is the right way to do it. It eliminates potential slop and keeps bad things from happening.
     
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    all im simply stating is that with the OP new wheels with -4.5 backspacing is still gonna cause pre mature wear to the wheel bearings (as he was stating in his other thread) the same as the spidertrax spacers with -4.25 backspacing will
     
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    Thank you tacoskim! I was under the impression that factory were 4.5 BS, thats where we I was misunderstanding and we were not seeing eye to eye on it
     
  17. Jun 22, 2009 at 3:57 PM
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    All good! its hard to communicate on forums
     
  18. Jun 22, 2009 at 8:07 PM
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    Haha, You will have to wait about 10-20 K miles until my tires are worn out, or if I sell my FJ wheels. Whichever comes first
     
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    Epic Fail for me haha
     
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