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Need advice on my plan for lifting my truck

Discussion in 'Suspension' started by easyeatlanta, Nov 7, 2011.

  1. Nov 7, 2011 at 5:28 PM
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    easyeatlanta

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    Alright so I already have 5100s all around fronts are set at 1.75 and i still have stock coils and stock leafs.

    For Christmas this is what I am asking for

    -4in lift spindles(putting my billys back to the 0 setting)
    -3in standard duty leaf springs

    I know I need new rear struts to accommodate for the added lift but am I missing anything else?
    any help is greatly appreciated.
     
  2. Nov 7, 2011 at 6:21 PM
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    please i need help here
     
  3. Nov 7, 2011 at 6:24 PM
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    What size tires are you looking to run after the spindles?
     
  4. Nov 7, 2011 at 6:28 PM
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    I was just going to keep my 265/65/18s and see what they look like if that look bad i would go up
     
  5. Nov 7, 2011 at 6:32 PM
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    IMO the 265's might look a bit small but other than that it sounds like a solid setup.
     
  6. Nov 8, 2011 at 5:59 AM
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    do I need a diff drop or anything or should i be ok without
     
  7. Nov 8, 2011 at 6:00 AM
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    You don't have a front differential so no diff drop. You might need rear axle shims with a 3" rear set-up though.
     
  8. Nov 8, 2011 at 7:02 AM
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    wow yeah i dont know why i said diff drop but alright i was wonderig about shims
     
  9. Nov 8, 2011 at 7:04 AM
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    If you have a takeoff vibe after lifting then you could get some shims but I'd wait to see.
     
  10. Nov 8, 2011 at 7:07 AM
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    if you're going to like 4 inches then I'd at least get some 33's
    and rear struts? I thought the rear just hada shock and your leaf pack

    someone help me here, now I'm confused
     
  11. Nov 8, 2011 at 7:09 AM
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    Pretty sure he meant shocks, no struts in the rear.
     
  12. Nov 8, 2011 at 7:12 AM
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    you never know, I could've been wrong this whole time. thanks for clearing that up for me!

    also, if you already got 5100's you should be fine. unless you want a ton of travel
     
  13. Nov 8, 2011 at 7:18 AM
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    The shorter 5100's will not do well with a 3" rear lift. He'd be in the middle of either 5125's or the longer 5100 series shocks. i'm not sure at what point you should get extended bump stops with longer shocks though. Eventually you'll get to the point where the shock will bottom out before you hit the bump stop.
     
  14. Nov 8, 2011 at 7:19 AM
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    I see the terms shocks and struts misused on here all the time.

    To clear this up, shocks do not actually support any of the vehicle structure (i.e. if they are removed, the suspension geometry stays the same). A strut is actually a load-bearing portion of the suspension (if removed the suspension will fall apart).

    As Mike noted above, tacomas do not have struts, front or rear.

    http://www.differencebetween.net/object/auto-object/difference-between-shocks-and-struts/
     
  15. Nov 8, 2011 at 7:22 AM
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    Well damn, now I'm confused... I always referred to the fronts as struts because they do carry the weight of the vehicle and they are required for the vehicle to drive. Now you say no struts, period?!?! :confused:
     
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    Struts replace the UCA's and upper ball joints, and also do the job of shocks by dampening.

    If you remove the front shocks on the tacoma, while it would drop the suspension (due to it being a coil-over setup), the actual suspension still functions as one unit, and articulates the same way it would without a shocks. If the vehicle had a front strut setup, the spindle would no longer be connected to anything at all on the top.

    It's not really the shocks that carry the weight on the front of the tacoma, it's the springs. On a coil-over setup though, the spring seat is on the shock itsself, so it is a little confusing.
     
  17. Nov 8, 2011 at 7:31 AM
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    Shocks
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    Struts
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    Note the lack of the UCA on the strut setup. The strut itsself is the upper articulation point.
     
  18. Nov 8, 2011 at 7:33 AM
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    I see what you're saying now. I had an old ATV that had the strut suspension, no UCA. Not going to promise I won't slip and refer to our front suspension set-up as a strut but thanks for clearing up the difference :eek:
     
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    Do spindle lifts need extended brake lines?
     
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    Yes, the link the OP posted includes them in the kit.
     
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