Need advice on rear suspension, please!

J66 leaf pack is considered race springs? Lol holy fuck stock tacoma springs are god

Is this real life?

 

Just because the springs are soft you are going to say they are shit? Do they meet Deavers design criteria?

 

Dude those springs were shit.

Hit up socaltaco65 he will tell you all about the issues

 

Ahhh yes another Muppet emerges...

The J-66 is a direct replacement for improved load and handling over stock, this is from Deaver and their Ads. The J-66 is not meant for a "Race Truck" application, not to mention with light off-roading ( crawling) with little to no bed load it went double negative arch on the ends. Along with this the spring keeper shackles hitting the frame in 3 places including the gas tank strap, funny thing is they know this up front and wait for the customer to call for them to recommend cutting them and bending them over.


And before you start calling folks idiots perhaps you should shut yapper and engage brain.

 

I have a deaver race pack and it works fine as a "race pack". It doesn't work worth a shit as a "camping gear hauler,boat puller, or dd" pack. You buy specialized springs to get specialized results. Unfortunately with a little google search it seems that j66 is specialized to take money from your wallet.

 

The J66 may suck, but to call all of Deaver crap is unfair. They make great quality products most of the time.

Why dont you have a custom pack built... or call them ahead of time and discuss your needs. They have several packs including one for increased load.

 

Where did you find "J-66 is a direct replacement for improved load and handling over stock" ???

I would be really interested to see Deaver advertising that, since they told me the exact opposite about load when I took in my J66. They said the J66 are basically for lift and comfort, not load or heavy offroading and they will knowingly sag very quickly. They kindly offered me a pricey re-arch, or a pricier add-a-leaf on a pack that was less than 6 months old.

 

I don't recall anyone bashing all of Deavers products, I actually like Deaver springs, been around a long time & have nothing to say about their other springs but good, its just the J-66 thats sub standard & what bugs me is the way they tried to market them , this inferior model is no secret to Deaver but initially still tried to peddle them as "this" type of spring , or that instead of just being honest about the failings of this particular design, re-tooling it (fixing the fuck ups) & re-releasing them to the public in an upgraded staus (which I hear is what they did)

 

Maybe from the Deaver rep. Erik had on the phone on the day we took them out & replaced, what you see in video is real & it shocked me to see their springs slamming hard against the concrete under just the weight of someone jumping up & down on them , I don't care HOW they want to sell the public on them, this shouldn't happen at all, even the stock springs don't bottom out like these did.

The highlighted statement is in itself bullshit Dave, you may get the soft,squishy ride but their statement about lifting doesn't pass the acid test dude, you cannot have & maintain lift with a soft spring, its just not going to happen relying on the ARC of the soft spring alone

 

Their old website had further remarks on the J-66 and what the intended use was, I even called them before purchasing and was told the same thing. I was lucky enough I suppose or said the right things that netted a full return.

 

Lesbehonest here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=T553scxGcMQ

Yes, the J66 pack is useless, I agree. How they marketed them was poor too. And worse, the customer service since they came out regarding that pack

This is why we suggest you go to a reputable shop that will stand behind what they sell you instead of going off of what a manufacturer claims. We all know manufacturer press releases are packed with filler and sometimes ridiculous claims (ex Intake ads up to 45% more HP!!!!). On top of this, a retailer will always have more pull then a customer does with a manufacturer.

Also as a retailer, If I am suggesting something to you - it better work right or its on me (This is the same for those of you who special order products from us and dont take our advice then expect a refund when it doesnt work, YOU made the poor part selection).

 

Kinda Like the BD tuners for 2gen Tacoma's, right Chas ?

 

What about them? We gave away 2 tester units (We expected a lot more) & We sold 20+ units. We had one come back because the user didnt understand what options it could and couldnt control on his truck. He never asked us & he never asked BD prior to purchasing. He sent us a return that was incomplete and expected a full refund, after dealing with his lack of understanding, he got a full refund. Its pretty simple to connect the dots if you arent simple minded.

In fact, its a lot like this thread where you have people bashing a company / product because they dont understand how to use it or what its used for. Now granted the J66 pack from Deaver had problems from the get go, but the BD tuner works pretty well.

 

No I understood what the Deaver rep had told me, twice...
And what I meant was the spam threads about the tacoma BD tuners and what was all the little gizmos that it was supposed to do and turn off and on...care to guess who it was that had mentioned that? I completely see why you are here and thats fine, but at least learn about the limitations of a product from avid and knowledgeable off roaders. Not everyone is a mall crawler...

 

Sub'd for banter.

 

First off, I apologize to the OP for the threadjacking thats kinda taken place, you just wanted some feedback on solutions to your issues, not a debate on the legitimacy of Deaver springs, for the record Deaver springs are great ! Probably ahead of the curve of almost all other spring makers around,


It's only the J-66's that are a step backwards & I'm sorry you were a victim, theres alot of solutions for your issues & alot of them don't involve emptying your wallet on big name brands....

EDIT: plus I don't like being called a fucking idiot, couldn't let that one go without a response.

 

You guys got me all self conscious ' bout my deavers.
And you're not an idiot...just fucking.

 

Love my deavers. Just buy the springs you need.

 

Ok, Yesterday I went to fish, it was like 80 miles from home to the sea. I load the bed with 3 coolers, one of them was empty (the smaller one), the other one blue in the back had beverages, and the bigger one just a 2 bags of 5 pounds of ice each. 5 fishing rods, reels, and a pack of jigs. I estimate that there was no more of 80 or maybe 100 lbs of total weight added. Each bump on the highway hits more hard than ever. When arrived, I checked the leafs, it was bended almost an inch with the weight added, and the frame was scratched.

Now I'm sure that these leafs are not for me. What should I do? Just adding an add-a-leaf I think will not be the solution.

Any comment, suggestion or ideas will be welcome.
Thanks