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Need HELP: Coil-over install problem (now)

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by SCFirefighter, Jul 1, 2010.

  1. Jul 1, 2010 at 8:56 AM
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    I had the hardest time getting my old struts out. I'm in the process of swapping them for my (now) assembled ToyTec coil-overs with billys.

    I disconnected the sway bar, but still do not have enough room to insert the new assembly. I was able to get the old one out, but barely, by 'screwing' it out between the LCA and the tie-rods (at least that's what I think they are lol).

    The new coils are thicker, and they don't go back in that way.
    I tried everything in my arsenal to disconnect the tie-rod to create room to just slide the coil in, but nothing.
    I tried disconnecting the LCA from the UCA but I cannot get the bolt out of the UCA.

    I'm running out of options. One of them has to go to create room.

    Any suggestions?


    ETA: The toytec help document says to remove the lower balljoint mount, but even with the picture I can't see what they are talking about.
     
  2. Jul 1, 2010 at 9:00 AM
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    You could always just bolt the LCA back up and remove the bolt from the UCA to the spindle... Might give you more wiggle room

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    Obviously with the swaybar out though... this picture was just a random on google so you could see.
     
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    Remove the the spindle from upper control arm. Remove cotter pin, loosen nut and seperate two pieces. Also remove bolt from brake line bracket on UCA. Be careful don't let hub wieght pull down on brake line.
     
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    I tied disconnecting the UCA. I got the pin out, took the nut off, and tried brute force including a hammer to push the bolt out. Nada.
     
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    When I've always done it I just disconnected the spindle from the uca, pushed the uca up a bit and slid it in that way.
     
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    Remove the castle nut from the tie rod end, then take a big hammer and hit the spindle on the side of where the tie rod inserts. You may have to do this 5-10 times hard, but the vibrations created will be enough to pop the tie rod out and you'll be able to move it out of the way.

    Never hit the threads of the tie rod.
     
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    Dont try to hammer the bolt upward, hammer the side of the spindle that sticks out DOWN to loosen everything up.
     
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    Oh wait .. after taking the pin and nut off, all I need is apply downforce pressure? That I haven't tried.

    Edit: What I tried was hammering upwards on the bolt, expecting it to come out of the top of the UCA. Looking at this picture that obviously won't work.
     
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    Back in the day on the 1st gen trucks.....

    We'd often require the assistance of a 'buddy' to stand ontop of the rotor and push it down with all his weight to give you more room.
     
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    yeah these things can be a pita! are you trying to do this in your garage, or are you at a hobby shop that has the right tools. cause you are gonna need a tie-rod seperator to get those apart.
     
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    Or a hammer :D
     
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    Yep yep yep, I just saw that while inspecting that picture. Will try in a minute!
     
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    Rep for perfectly timed smart-ass comment :)
     
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    Haha, thanks I felt as though MJP2 and strom and the others helped you out that it wouldn't be too ass-ish if I made that comment. :laugh:
     
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    I must be doing something wrong. Can't get it to budge. Standing on the rotor pushing down, and pulling up on the UCA .. nothing. It's a brand new Tacoma, so it's not like stuff is rusted in place.
    Even hammering the hell out of the UCA (from the bottom) while standing on the rotor to create tension isn't doing it. I'm not sure what part 'that sticks out' I should be trying to create downforce pressure (hammer or otherwise).

    Any more suggestions anyone?
     
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    Don't be afraid to smack the side of the spindle hard. It won't break it. I believe that is the best way to get it separated from the uca.
     
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    "Remove the 2 lower ball joint mount bolts and separate the ball joint from the spindle".
    Is this what I should be trying maybe? Can someone help me accomplish this with maybe a picture?
     
  19. Jul 1, 2010 at 9:28 AM
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    Where do you have the truck jacked up at? Middle crossbar right?
     
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    That's where I jacked it, yes. But it's now resting on two stands on the outer parts of the frame.
     
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