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Need help with AR build

Discussion in 'Guns & Hunting' started by TacoTabe, May 12, 2011.

  1. May 17, 2011 at 3:34 PM
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    TacoTabe

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    So just to update, in case any other AR-15 build noobs look at this thread- my total outlay for this is as follows:

    BCM Upper Receiver - $399
    LMT Bolt Carrier Group- $130
    BCM Charging Handle- $23
    Punisher Lower w/color-$136
    (Spike's Tactical)
    FFL Transfer Fee- $30
    Magpul CTR Stock kit- $80
    Magpul Handguard- $30
    Lower Parts Kit- $53
    Magpul Flip-up Sight- $38
    Angled Fore Grip- $34
    Magpul P-Mags (5)- $70
    600 rounds of ammo- $230
    ^(Not Wolf or Bear)

    Total= $1,253!!!

    If you take away the $300 for ammo and mags, thats $953- about what a Bushmaster or DPMS costs at the gun store here. I'd say I got a decent deal :D
     
  2. May 17, 2011 at 5:19 PM
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    scrappletaco

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    Oh yeah I've embarked on about the same journey as yours. Let me know what you think of that BCM upper. I am ordering one either the M4 or mid length 16in. upper.
     
  3. May 17, 2011 at 8:17 PM
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    Crap I just realised my BCM upper I ordered does not come with the charging handle and BCG.
    I will be getting a complete lower locally so that will be good.
    When I install the BCG is there any special tools or guages needed to set headspace?
    Is that best left to a smith?
    Thanks for the list being a beginner AR guy (swore I never would :rolleyes: ) I have never paid much attn. to them.
    Now I will end up with two when I get done.
    Oh well I could be blowing the bucks on my truck instead!
     
  4. May 17, 2011 at 9:47 PM
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    As long as you are putting a new (quality) BCG in a new upper, especially of BCM quality, you are good to go; no head space worries.
     
  5. May 17, 2011 at 10:06 PM
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    Thanks Matt,
    I am trying to decide between Az. armory and Quentin defense for a new lower.
    Seems like I am building a new rifle here!! :D:D
     
  6. May 18, 2011 at 3:20 AM
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    Will do. I went with the M4 upper carbine length.

    I should have the upper and the stock and stuff by friday, but I havent gotten a delivery date yet for the lower. Spike's website indicated it might be 2-3 weeks before the lower ships, so it might be a month or so before its together and I can put some rounds through it.
     
  7. May 18, 2011 at 5:43 AM
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    looks good to me!
     
  8. May 18, 2011 at 6:50 AM
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    Woot!
     
  9. May 18, 2011 at 7:08 AM
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    http://palmettostatearmory.com/1746.php
    Here the auto BCG i ordered that zombierunner gave me the link to. I have one of those BCM gunfighter charging handles too. Just need to order my upper on pay day and I'm golden... well need ammo too
     
  10. May 18, 2011 at 7:19 AM
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    Got my upper and gunfighter CH yesterday. Installed it, the rear MBUS and the handguard, this thing is starting to look like a rifle! Just need my bcg and a couple of mags and I'll be gtg.
     
  11. May 20, 2011 at 2:22 PM
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    About Palmetto State Armory:

    So i ordered many of the components for my AR build from PSA, and they arrived yesterday(thursday). Not among those items was the magpul fore-grip that I ordered.

    I called PSA this morning(friday) at 10am and spoke to "Sam". He apologized profusely for the error and stated that it wasnt in stock when they shipped everything. He said he usually calls people to inform them when this happens, but he forgot. After apologing again, he informed me he'd get me one when he got them in stock- and if they didnt get them in soon he'd let me know and help me rectify the situation some how. Fast forward to 4:30 today, I get home and there is a package at my door.

    PSA got my grip to me from Columbia, SC to Fort Lauderdale, FL in 6.5 hours! May not be that incredible, but sure isnt cheap either. And they did this so as not to piss off a customer.

    I am going to call PSA tomorrow and tell Sam that his efforts have ensured that PSA will be the recipient of all my future firemarms purchases. :)
     
  12. May 21, 2011 at 3:07 PM
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    Very glad to hear that! I had ordered ammo from them and it took almost 3 weeks to get it to me after emailing and calling. The price was pretty good so Im not gonna comPlain too much
     
  13. May 22, 2011 at 5:19 AM
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    So where is the savings here? You have a decent upper with the Bravo unit but it doesn't have a chrome bore or chamber. The lower parts group may or may not have the same quality components that is in a Bushmaster or DPMS. And you sill have to put it together. Personally, I'd rather that someone else does the assembly.
     
  14. May 22, 2011 at 8:22 PM
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    Go look at the specs on a bcm rifle and then go look at the specs on a dpms or bushy and come back and let me know what u find. If you would rather just buy a bushy or dpms then there you probably don't care about mil spec parts or quality control when it comes to parts. Plus it's just more fun to build one rather than buy one :)
     
  15. May 22, 2011 at 8:34 PM
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    oh and let me quote Bravo company here.

    I dont know where you got that it doesnt have a chrome bore or chamber but it says it right on any of their uppers pages
    http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/BCM-M4-16-Upper-Receiver-Group-p/bcm-urg-m4-16.htm

    Carry on


    this is what you want to look for when buying a rifle. If they claim that it is mil spec but does not meet these standards then it is not
    https://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=pwswheghNQsEuEhjFwPrgTA&single=true&gid=5&output=html
     
  16. May 23, 2011 at 7:22 AM
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    Yeah all Bravo company product in my opinion are great for the money. I agree with zombierunner the QC is suppose to be one of the highest. Plus they give money to the wounded warrior project which my base is involved with. Thats another inccentive to buy from them but to each their own.
     
  17. May 24, 2011 at 5:17 AM
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    Guess I'm just a dweeb. My pre-ban Bushy E2S-A2 has been shooting real well for years without any trouble of any kind as long as it's bolt group is kept clean.
     
  18. May 24, 2011 at 5:19 AM
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    You are right. I made a comment with out properly checking it out.
     
  19. May 24, 2011 at 6:03 AM
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    :)

    It's all good.
     
  20. May 24, 2011 at 8:19 PM
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    I got the PSA bcg the fit and finish is great and all the parts fit smooth. Just hope it preforms well
     

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