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Need Help With Mid Travel Setup

Discussion in 'Suspension' started by joemyself, Apr 26, 2016.

  1. Apr 26, 2016 at 9:58 PM
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  2. Apr 26, 2016 at 10:04 PM
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  3. Apr 26, 2016 at 10:28 PM
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    Let's say I went with an All-Pro Expedition Leaf pack, their sites says it adds a 3" lift. Now lets say I paired that with a shock that has a 2-3" of lift. Would this then mean that that I would have 5-6" of lift in total? Because to me that seems like way more than I would need to match my front suspension that is 0-3" of lift.
     
  4. Apr 26, 2016 at 10:31 PM
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    No no no. So the leaf pack is what lifts the rear end, thats it, shocks never lift a vehicle only springs or blocks (don't get any blocks/spacers). The shock is saying that it suits lifts for 2-3". So if the leaf pack lifts the rear 3", then you need a rear shock to accommodate for at least a 3" lift. Does that make sense?
     
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  5. Apr 26, 2016 at 10:41 PM
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    Mind blown.. Shows how little I know about trucks. But hey, you gotta start somewhere! So now how does that translate to the front suspension? The coils are what are lifting the front end?
     
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    Yessir! Coils lift the front. With the Fox, Icon and Kings you can completely adjust the lift. As in there is a collar that screws down the shock body to raise/lower your front lift. More you crank them down (more lift), the more pre load you'll have which equals a stiffer ride. Normally they come preset to about 2" of lift.

    Here is a good pic showing the threads. That is a normal amount of preload. Also depends on spring length (King has 14" springs, Fox and Icon have 13" springs, so you'll see more preload on Fox and Icons than Kings).
    IMG_3968-1.jpg

    Also you will need new upper control arms, I highly recommend total chaos. Best made in my opinion.
     
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    Also before you buy the lift you need to decide when you will buy your front bumper, winch and skids. Doesn't have to be right away but this will help you determine which spring rate you want (when you buy your coil overs you can request certain spring rates for no extra cost). Get ready for a headache because there is a lot to know about lifting a Tacoma lol
     
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    Tons of awesome information you're giving me, so thankful! You've already relieved a headache of its own, but now on to the next one I suppose. lol. What is a typical spring rate for someone who runs a front bumper/winch/skids? What if you ran this spring rate with none of the gear on the truck? (of course would eventually put the gear on as the funds come in). Or would it make more sense to just wait and change the spring rate once the bumper/winch/skids are installed.
     
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    Stock spring rate is 600lbs (each coil takes 600lbs of to compress 1"). You have 3 options for spring rates, 600, 650lb, or 700lb. People who run a bumper, winch, and skids pretty much always run 700lb coils to compensate for the extra weight. Anything less and your nose will dive every time you brake, or you will have to put so much preload on your coil overs to retain the lift. So thats why I say figure out when you will be getting a bumper, winch and skids. If you are only getting a bumper, possibly a winch but wait on skids, go with 650lb coils.
     
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    Roger that, thanks! So after getting a ton of great info, I think my best bet will be to get the 2.0 Performance Series RR with 2-3" of lift if I'm going with a leaf pack that has 3" of lift. Those should work good together.. ?
     
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  12. Apr 27, 2016 at 12:56 AM
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    great advice thus far and yes, those shocks w/ a 3'' leaf pack will work nicely! but if your going to do it, do it right. if your ordering a full leaf pack you wont be able to use the full amount of droop when using the factory shock mounting location. so you should take it one step further and order the BAMF shock relocation kit along with 2.0 Factory Series 12'' Smooth Body RR , throw in your favorite shackle flip and extended brakelines and your good to go!
     
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  13. Apr 27, 2016 at 6:47 AM
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    Yes and no, if he is doing mainly overlanding then if isn't worth the headache to do a shock relocation
    He will need extended brake lines though no matter
     
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    Which extended brake lines would be sufficient for my lift? Thanks for all the help man.
     
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    Lots to choose from:

    @allpro (Tracy)
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    ...can all help you out!
     
  16. Apr 28, 2016 at 7:34 AM
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    I have a set from toytec but I think almost anyone sells the brake lines.

    donr forget to ask which ever company you go through for a tacomaworld discount. Usually it's 5% if they have one.
     
  17. Apr 28, 2016 at 10:30 AM
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    Great choice on the fox coilovers! just installed those (along with Camburg UCA) in my 2000 taco and although still stiff the harder it hits stuff it is much more predictable... plus lets be honest, they look so badass. also not sure if anyone has mentioned it but if you end up doing a 3in lift you might want to consider a diff drop kit.
     
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    We have extended brake lines that are 26" long that can accommodate a 3-4" lift.

    Let us know how we can help you!

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